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Old 10-16-2007, 04:44 PM
golfnutt golfnutt is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

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Suddenly U.S. regulation is sounding like not such a bad thing.

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Then we take a look at American public schools. Suddenly US regulation sounds like a bad thing again.

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Public schools are more than regulated by the govt. They are operated by the govt. Regulating a private industry is a different matter. A better analogy would be casinos, which are regulated by the govt but still run by private enterprise.

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:58 PM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Hi Absolute Support:

I think you're going to have to give more thorough explanations than what you have here, and you need to do it not only in this thread but in the thread in our other forum Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance located here.

I have written before, that it is very important for a poker room to not only be honestly run, but for players to have the perception that it is honestly run. When an honest poker room looses the confidence of its players, it can mean a significant drop in business for that poker room, and this should be true whether it is a B&M or an Internet cardroom.

So I recommend to you, given the size and scope of these threads, to invest the time and answer every issue that you can to the satisfaction of our posters. I believe it's in your best interest.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

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Hi Absolute Support:

I think you're going to have to give more thorough explanations than what you have here, and you need to do it not only in this thread but in the thread in our other forum Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance located here.

I have written before, that it is very important for a poker room to not only be honestly run, but for players to have the perception that it is honestly run. When an honest poker room looses the confidence of its players, it can mean a significant drop in business for that poker room, and this should be true whether it is a B&M or an Internet cardroom.

So I recommend to you, given the size and scope of these threads, to invest the time and answer every issue that you can to the satisfaction of our posters. I believe it's in your best interest.

Best wishes,

Mason Malmuth
Publisher
Two Plus Two Publishing LLC

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Thanks Mason.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Owned by Mason Malmuth.

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Old 10-17-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Thanks Mason. I'm glad to see you share our concerns.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:52 AM
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Totally with Mason on this. I will not be redepositing on Absolute for the time being, and am having serious second thoughts about Ultimate Bet. A fuller explanation is in order.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:03 AM
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I'm one of the luckier players because I'm a net winner on Absolute, though I wonder how much more I would have won? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I won't be playing on Absolute anymore, and won't be redepositing anything serious on UB.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

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Hi Absolute Support:

I think you're going to have to give more thorough explanations than what you have here, and you need to do it not only in this thread but in the thread in our other forum Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance located here.

I have written before, that it is very important for a poker room to not only be honestly run, but for players to have the perception that it is honestly run. When an honest poker room looses the confidence of its players, it can mean a significant drop in business for that poker room, and this should be true whether it is a B&M or an Internet cardroom.

So I recommend to you, given the size and scope of these threads, to invest the time and answer every issue that you can to the satisfaction of our posters. I believe it's in your best interest.

Best wishes,

Mason Malmuth
Publisher
Two Plus Two Publishing LLC

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Thanks Mason glad to see 2+2 stepping up to the plate on this issue..I hope other orgs. do the same...How Absolute handles this "issue" can have a lasting impact on online poker for some time esp considering the current legal climate..
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:22 AM
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Do they really care more about their ads than about poker players, and could therefore condone cheating?

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Of course they do.....After the UIGEA, this could be the death-blow to the mainstream poker movement as we know it. Even after the UIGEA, look at the percentages of magazine ads by internet sites. With only a handful remaining that accept US Players, these mags would simply go out of business without them.

I've noticed quite a few live-game cheating articles lately.......everything from how to mark cards to player collusion at the tables. I've yet to see even a hint of online problems. If anything, they seem to be protecting the online game while villifying the live game. I'm not sure if this is intentional or not....but interesting to say the least.

This will unfortuantely go nowhere...and AP knows it.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Thanks Mason. Definitely glad to see you speak up.
Might be better to send it directly to AP but one assumes they have people who continue to read this stuff even if they choose not to respond so I assume your post here is probably as good as sending it to them directly.

hoping Mason and 2+2 will consider refusal of advertising dollars from AP pending a better dialogue on this issue.
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