S[]D Squeee Call

[Todd Terry]

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Since your shove is not enough to be a raise, Zugwat can now call with any decent hand, maybe even a crappy hand, since he's getting more than 3:1, and then you're all-in with QJo against 2 players.

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Assuming Zugwat is calling with "any decent hand" is a horrible assumption IMO, unless your definition of "any decent hand" is quite a bit different from mine.

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If you give Bakes {88+, AQ+} and djk top 25%, he's getting pot odds, 3.5:1 (not including the antes), to call with a random hand. Plus you have an all in and no side pot, so djk's probably not going crazy with absolute air on the flop. What should he be folding here?

[WarDekar]

Does he really want to be playing OOP vs. DJK in a bloated pot where he basically only has a PSB left?

I don't think he's calling here much, maybe shove, in which case Bakes should be HU vs. him instead of DJK playing for a bigger pot (albeit vs. a much tighter range)

[Todd Terry]

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Does he really want to be playing OOP vs. DJK in a bloated pot where he basically only has a PSB left?

I don't think he's calling here much, maybe shove, in which case Bakes should be HU vs. him instead of DJK playing for a bigger pot (albeit vs. a much tighter range)

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Position is irrelevant -- the best hand is going to win the pot, since the presence of Bakes being all in basically prevents djk from pushing him out of the pot. I agree that he'll shove a lot of hands here pre, but I personally wouldn't fold too many if any.

[furfur]

definite fold

[shaundeeb]

I like this call and zugwat proved why you get HU here like 95% of the time. Which makes it massively +EV.

[Exitonly]

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I like this call and zugwat proved why you get HU here like 95% of the time. Which makes it massively +EV.

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nah man, this almost certainly was a bad call. I dont even think it's breakeven CEV, nevermind cash ev.We need like 38% equity just to breakeven w/ chip equity vs DJK if we get HU every time. Zugwat ever calling behind is not beneficial.. and we're deep in the 100r and calling allin, cEV != EV. So, without checking by doing the math - i'd pretty sure we need a stronger hand here, even vs spazzy DJK.

[JSchnett]

I tend to like Exit's analysis on these type of hands and I have to say I agree on this one too.

[psyduck]

This seems really bad. You are overestimating CO's opening range into good players behind him, and you're probably overestimating btn's 3-betting range here as well.

In CO's spot with DJK on the button and you in the big blind I would be open folding stuff like KT and A9, maybe even as high as KJ and 66 etc.

[djk123]

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This seems really bad. You are overestimating CO's opening range into good players behind him, and you're probably overestimating btn's 3-betting range here as well.

In CO's spot with DJK on the button and you in the big blind I would be open folding stuff like KT and A9, maybe even as high as KJ and 66 etc.

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meh about folding 66. you could prob play for stacks for value with 66 vs me here

[zizazziza]

i love how he is commenting about how loose he is here and that this against himself he would be shoving these hands. i LOL. damn im drunk early... WOOHOO THANkSGIVING BREAK!!!