Boxing Weekend of 10/5 - 10/7: Barreria v. Pacquiao

[Tuds75]

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I'm surprised you guys like MAB here. I expect another one-sided beating. Pacquiao is a better fighter now than he was in their first bout.

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I think Pacman WILL win, I just said MAB is full of value. How often do you find such a great fighter at +300 while he is still only 33 (but there is a lot wear on MAB). +300 is nice number for a former champion who has beaten some of the best. MAB might have lost to Marquez, but the fact he fought him for 12 rounds so well goes to show everyone MAB is not washed up. Juan Manuel Marquez might be a top 10 p4p fighter. No shame in losing to him.



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I could see Barrera possibly keeping it respectable early, but I don't see how he could go a hard 12 rounds with Manny. I expect him to fade down the stretch. Manny never lets up, and he has a great killer instinct, so he has a great chance for a stoppage.

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Sure, Barrera will hit him with counterpunches, but Manny will walk right through them. He's like a buzzsaw - he hits so hard, his hands are very fast

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All this could have said about MAB against Prince Naseem Hamed. Prince was this fighter with dynamite in both fists and people expected Prince to blow out MAB out of the ring. Mind you that fight was a few years ago and we can be sure MAB is not quiet the same fighter, but MAB has shown he can beat bigger punchers (also Morrales, Marquez and Kevin Kelly).

I think Pacman is on a tear right now, but do I consider him unbeatable? Hardly. Pacman's defense is always questionable. With his "buzzsaw" come forward attitude he neglects his defense to try and get his punches in. Watch the first Pacman/Morrales or Pacman/Marquez. Even a smaller Oscar Larios was landing on Pacman. It should also be noted Pacman has been involved in politics in the Phillipeans. This was a distraction in his last fight. It might just show that Pacman's mind is not 100% on boxing.

Just to clarify, I think Manny will win this fight, but if I was going to bet on this fight. I would lay a small amount on Barrera because he is laying a good price. If I wanted to win money I would bet on another fight this weekend (Peters/McCline OVER..see other post).

Tuds

[Tuds75]

If anyone saw the Peter/McCline fight there is a good example of why you stay away from -750 and similar type heavy favorites, but it all worked out in the end.

I feel if I am going to lay such odds (-450 and above) I definately don't want my fighter down 3 times in 3 rounds and I don't want to sweat a decision. I just hope you learned Post-Oak that betting those big/heavy favs will come back to burn you eventually. Good to see you still were able to cash a ticket.

Tuds

[Thremp]

Tuds,

Both those posts are humiliatingly bad. Parlay Slow is correct. You and dankhank are abysmally wrong. I'd suggest looking into this very soon.

[NajdorfDefense]

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Tuds,

Both those posts are humiliatingly bad. Parlay Slow is correct. You and dankhank are abysmally wrong. I'd suggest looking into this very soon.

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Saying he didn't think he was 88% to win I think is fine, regardless if he says it differently than you. If he got knocked down 3x, sounds like he was right.

I think Tuds would lay Tyson -750 v Thremp, if that's what you mean.

[rush66]

Id take Thremp +800 at SIA.

[Parlay Slow]

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Tuds,

Both those posts are humiliatingly bad. Parlay Slow is correct. You and dankhank are abysmally wrong. I'd suggest looking into this very soon.

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Saying he didn't think he was 88% to win I think is fine, regardless if he says it differently than you. If he got knocked down 3x, sounds like he was right.


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I think you re-read his posts in the thread carefully, you'll find that he wasn't saying anything like that.

[Trencherman]

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If anyone saw the Peter/McCline fight there is a good example of why you stay away from -750 and similar type heavy favorites, but it all worked out in the end.

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If there was going to be an immediate rematch of this fight, what odds would you take on McCline?

[Tuds75]

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If anyone saw the Peter/McCline fight there is a good example of why you stay away from -750 and similar type heavy favorites, but it all worked out in the end.

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If there was going to be an immediate rematch of this fight, what odds would you take on McCline?

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What odds would I take? I would take something like +700 for McCline. It a moot point because there will be no rematch. Oleg or Klitschko have the next shot at Peter. McCline though can get another semi big fight with that showing.

Tuds

[Tuds75]

Andrew Golota -373
Kevin McBride +343

Total Rounds: 5.5
OVER -112
UNDER +102

Fist off let me say, Yuck. I don't want to watch or think about either of these fighters. Golota is well past his prime and who knows about this guy anymore and Kevin McBride can place his name next to Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis as Mike Tyson conquers, that should make you a little sick.

This is Don King fight and he loves Gotola and anybody who have beat his former cash-cow, Mike Tyson. McBride is one of the least talented heavyweights fighting. Kevin McBride is tall and that is end of the positives about him. He is slow with his punches and with his feet. He has no real power, no real sense of how to box, no defense, no chin. He just should not be a boxer. The fact he beat Mike Tyson still boggles my mind. Yes Tyson was old and didn't care and on drugs during the fight and a faded figher. McBride is so bad Mike Tyson should have beaten him and Cicely Tyson would give McBride a good fight. Basically if Goloata can make it to the ring and not implode in the first few rounds he should be able to take care of McBride pretty quickly.

Golata had skills for a heavy, key word had, but that is more then you can say for McBride. McBride will come foward and stand in front of Golota and this is exactly what Goloata wants and loves for a fighter to do. McBride will look to hold, but McBride believes he can can KO Golota. This fight will go about 3 rounds. No way it goes 6, unless each the fighters mutually agree to take naps during rounds 4-7. Both guys will be winging punches looking for an early KO. Look for Golota to connect and finish McBride in 3 or fewer.

Yes this is not a big name fight or a sexy fight, but its all about making money and finding good bets and the UNDER is a good bet.

Tuds

[trixtrix]

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Andrew Golota -373
Kevin McBride +343

Total Rounds: 5.5
OVER -112
UNDER +102

Fist off let me say, Yuck. I don't want to watch or think about either of these fighters. Golota is well past his prime and who knows about this guy anymore and Kevin McBride can place his name next to Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis as Mike Tyson conquers, that should make you a little sick.

This is Don King fight and he loves Gotola and anybody who have beat his former cash-cow, Mike Tyson. McBride is one of the least talented heavyweights fighting. Kevin McBride is tall and that is end of the positives about him. He is slow with his punches and with his feet. He has no real power, no real sense of how to box, no defense, no chin. He just should not be a boxer. The fact he beat Mike Tyson still boggles my mind. Yes Tyson was old and didn't care and on drugs during the fight and a faded figher. McBride is so bad Mike Tyson should have beaten him and Cicely Tyson would give McBride a good fight. Basically if Goloata can make it to the ring and not implode in the first few rounds he should be able to take care of McBride pretty quickly.

Golata had skills for a heavy, key word had, but that is more then you can say for McBride. McBride will come foward and stand in front of Golota and this is exactly what Goloata wants and loves for a fighter to do. McBride will look to hold, but McBride believes he can can KO Golota. This fight will go about 3 rounds. No way it goes 6, unless each the fighters mutually agree to take naps during rounds 4-7. Both guys will be winging punches looking for an early KO. Look for Golota to connect and finish McBride in 3 or fewer.

Yes this is not a big name fight or a sexy fight, but its all about making money and finding good bets and the UNDER is a good bet.

Tuds

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i'll book your bet right now giving you +110 on the under 5.5, bet limit is 500;

edit: i bumped the odds 5 more cents as they're offer +106 on pinny
let me know if there is interest