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Old 09-16-2007, 09:47 PM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
words and music by Woody Guthrie

Chorus:
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me

As I was walking a ribbon of highway
I saw above me an endless skyway
I saw below me a golden valley
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps
To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts
And all around me a voice was sounding
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

The sun comes shining as I was strolling
The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling
The fog was lifting a voice come chanting
This land was made for you and me

Chorus

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!


Chorus

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

Chorus (2x)
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Old 09-16-2007, 10:07 PM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:05 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:21 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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WTF is "public land"? How far is far enough that it doesn't matter?
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:40 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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Whether my land is a house or a strip of pavement, I do not expect you to drive through it unauthorized.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:47 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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Whether my land is a house or a strip of pavement, I do not expect you to drive through it unauthorized.

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Who authorised you to own it exclusively?
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:55 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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Whether my land is a house or a strip of pavement, I do not expect you to drive through it unauthorized.

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Who authorised you to own it exclusively?

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Tell us your address so we can share your place with you. (Serious answer: read Locke)
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:58 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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WTF is "public land"? How far is far enough that it doesn't matter?

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So you propose denying people the "right to roam"? You think it is fair that pre-2007 half the coastline of England was exclusive to landowners and cut off to the public? Granted the 'right to roam' refers to walkers not drivers, but I fear you extend your love of private property to wish the denial of our rights as humans to walk on treasured land? This is an issue where I strongly support state intervention and regulation of public access to private land, but more so the writings of anarchists and individualist socialists.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:59 AM
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Dont worry, I still used the private roads. No one is going to deny me the freedom of using a road that is merely kept private to enlarge the ego and self-worth of a douchey fat-cat...

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Wow. You better hope I don't find out where you live, and decide to visit you while you're not home.

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LOL, aggressive. You do realise there is a difference between ones home and the issue of buying up public land? The owners home was about 3 miles.

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Whether my land is a house or a strip of pavement, I do not expect you to drive through it unauthorized.

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Who authorised you to own it exclusively?

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Tell us your address so we can share your place with you. (Serious answer: read Locke)

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268. Flinders St, Melbourne, VIC, 3000. Your welcome.

Serious answer: read Wilde, Bakunin, Thompson, Kropotkin, Proudhon....

But yes I will read some John Locke essays on property rights.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:05 AM
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This is a hopeless argument. In a society where most people agree that individuals can own land, the people who don't agree will be very unhappy with the situation and vice versa.
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