The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist

[pokerbobo]

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Yep.

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Why don't more people get this?

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Because they have grown up in a society where the complete opposite is believed AND TAUGHT!

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But so was I, so was Boro, so were the rest of ACers. It goes beyond that. ( I may not even be a true ACer as I have read nothing on it but Boro posts and similar. I do know my own personel philosophy was very close to it, before I had ever heard the term AC.)

Maybe we (ACers) are wired different to not just agree with something because it was taught to us. I was raised a Catholic, went to church every week, and even as a child I wondered "If god created the earth then who created god?" Is there a god above god and if there is, doesnt that god need a creator too?

Around age 7, I thought it just seemed too far fetched that Santa could visit every house on earth in one nite, even with the time zones and the fact that he only went to Christian homes.

I really think that at least 60% of America is just apathetic about aquiring knowledge. Critical thinking is not the strong suit of any populace. Most people have no desire to use thier minds, to integrate thoughts, to think a theory thru to the end. It is part laziness, and part disinterest, and for many, just a general lack of brains.

I dont want to go on much more.... but as I said in my earlier post, I'm really interested in other's thoughts on why this doesn't make sense to sooooo many people. I realize indoctrination starts people on the path, but it seemed so easy for me as a "moldable mind" as a child, to see thru the garbage and abandon that path.
It's also one of the reasons I left college. Where were you Borodog when I needed you? I would have sat thru all my other classes and hated them, just to stay enrolled and listen to lectures by you. (I would have coasted to an A in your class too.)

[Felz]

Yes, because rational thought inevitably leads to being an AC'ist. Coz all the intellectual elite althrough the world believes in AC'ism.

Honestly, you should realize that you simply believe and not know. There is no inevitable "truth" in economics, it's a social science.

[Kaj]

How is this mindset different for a collectivist voluntarist?

[Nielsio]

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How is this mindset different for a collectivist voluntarist?

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Well... you tell me!

What actions do you deem immoral that makes the difference between AC and AS? If there are actions that you deem immoral then how do you propose to deal with that? Remember that any way of dealing with it cannot suffer from the same problem.

[Leaky Eye]

How would you feel about the state if it did not kidnap and cage?

[valenzuela]

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How would you feel about the state if it did not kidnap and cage?

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It wouldnt be a state.

[Nielsio]

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How would you feel about the state if it did not kidnap and cage?

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You mean if it acted like a business? On a voluntary basis?


Then it would cease to be a state. Evidently I am all for voluntary interaction, so a shift of mindset from one to the other is what I am trying to bring about.

[ALawPoker]

Isn't voting OK by AC standards if it's in "self-defense"?

So then, couldn't supporting taxes (as the life blood of a minimalist state) be OK, if for no reason other than you feel worldwide sentiment makes states inevitable, and you feel you need one to protect yourself?

[Nielsio]

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Isn't voting OK by AC standards if it's in "self-defense"?

So then, couldn't supporting taxes (as the life blood of a minimalist state) be OK, if for no reason other than you feel worldwide sentiment makes states inevitable, and you feel you need one to protect yourself?

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Q: If I vote, am I an authoritarian?
A: Most people who vote are authoritarians in their ideas (statists), however writing on a piece of paper is itself not an act of violent aggression. For example: anyone can declare war on a country but it really doesn't matter much. What matters is what you *do*.

Q: I support voluntary interactions in most cases, but I believe there are times when coercive force is justified, outside of direct self-defense. Am I a voluntaryist?
A: Voluntarism is a moral principle. Moral principles are universal statements. Either you support the principle universally or you can not be said to hold it. If you hold that violent aggression is justified in some cases then you are an authoritarian because you think that the moral principle does not exist!
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[ALawPoker]

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EDIT: Nielsio I poked you.