can you find a fold?

[sonartec]

Are you in my HULA team, my god we have no chance [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

but serioulsy, your thought processes are inconsistant, they are LAGS, and you want to call with TPTK, I definately raise the flop and probably cap and go from there, waiting to raise the turn is ok as well.

[wackjob]

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btw after BB caps preflop, I muck.


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now I realize I've invited some harsh beratement for my post, which is fine and all, else I wouldn't have posted it. but saying you'd fold AQ 4way versus 2 lags... wtf?

[Solid_p]

You really need to pop that flop! And pf is a call.

[kkcountry]

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wow... I was I had more hands so I could give your play 4 thumbs down [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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i usually don't post in mhshlhe, but i had to give this props

[Victor]

i dont think you played it too poor. i raise the flop but since you just called i think your play is fine after.

[veganmav]

I would sitll fold preflop. It's gonna be 4 handed to the flop and you have to hope no one has AK/AQ AA/KK/QQ, and you are flipping with other pocket pairs.
Multiway, preflop like this, after they know im nitty and I raise UTG, and its still 3bet and then capped by the big blind?! i'm out.

But still, if i had called the cap(i guess i might 15% of the time), i'd play it more agressively post flop definately.

edit: You say they are agressive, which they are, but they aren't all that lose

[Buffsta8]

I think at these limits people overthink how most players respond to their own type of play. A lot of lags multitabling re raise a heap of hands and just run over the games through sheer aggressiion rather than correct tactical adjustments based on specific player information.

Definitely call preflop and hope to hit an Axx flop and take AJ and AT to valuetown. Once you hit a great flop like Qxx get some money in the pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As Victor said though as you call and gather more info about the hand ie that this guy doesnt care how many players he has to bet into hes just gonna keep on betting each chance to raise you pass up has less and less significance. That said many players with KQ and QJ here are just praying that no overcard comes and no flush card comes and dismiss the fact they may not be ahead at all.

[Victor]

"I would sitll fold preflop. "

absolutely not. ive seen solid tags or passive 30/10s coldcap 87s far to many times to throw this out here. unless i actually knew the guy, like irl or on 2p2 and he knew me, i wouldnt fold.

[baronzeus]

the only real mistake here is on the flop. the pot is big enough where you want to fold hands like 77-JJ out right away.

[wackjob]

UTG1 showed QJo, BB showed 99, button folded, MHIG. I guess at some point a raise was good to eliminte hands with 2-4 outers.