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Old 01-12-2007, 04:13 PM
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I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard

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and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt.

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Old 01-13-2007, 03:29 PM
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You people expect too much of Pelosi just because she is a woman. All politicians are the same whether male or female.
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:22 PM
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If the cost of living in Samoa is low, it might not make sense to impose the minimum wage.

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I don't see how diehard Dems can make any argument about the MW that uses ecomnomic realities as a portion of it after ignoring them in ever other emotional appeal.

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2. I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt. Her constituents probably want that company to be healthy for the jobs it provides.

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Just admit it smells like week old tuna and we'll move on.
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:17 PM
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1. Pelosi doing a favor isn't necessarily the reason that American Samoa was exempted. If the cost of living in Samoa is low, it might not make sense to impose the minimum wage. I don't know what the cost of living is, but I bet its lower than the States.

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Then by this logic other US territories with low costs of living should be exempt as well...

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2. I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt. Her constituents probably want that company to be healthy for the jobs it provides.

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I suspect if a Repub did this you would be the first to criticize this act. But a Dem gets a pass from you... Also is it not OK for the constituents of Repub districts to want their local companies to be "healthy"?

Personally, I think a federal minimum wage is unconstitutional. It takes a VERY creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause to say the federal govt has this power...
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:36 PM
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Personally, I think a federal minimum wage is unconstitutional. It takes a VERY creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause to say the federal govt has this power...

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Like the one we have currently where growing wheat on your own land for your own use is "interstate commerce" (because you COULD have engaged in commerce instead).
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:22 PM
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Personally, I think a federal minimum wage is unconstitutional. It takes a VERY creative interpretation of the interstate commerce clause to say the federal govt has this power...

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I don't see how any interpretation of the constitution could possibly give the Federal gov't this authority. Of course I have never heard anyone attempt to explain how it could be.

Any takers?
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:58 PM
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1. Pelosi doing a favor isn't necessarily the reason that American Samoa was exempted. If the cost of living in Samoa is low, it might not make sense to impose the minimum wage. I don't know what the cost of living is, but I bet its lower than the States.

2. I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt. Her constituents probably want that company to be healthy for the jobs it provides.

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1. And lower than every other American territory that isnt exempted? It was the only one, till she got caught. Get real.

2. Youre right it isnt, necessarily. But it is still hypocritical given the campaign rhetoric about "transparency", "bipartisanship", "eliminating earmarks", etc. It IS corrupt if she has a substantial ownership interest in the company, which one report said she did. It SMELLS and may actually be corrupt if they made substantial campaign contributions.
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:13 AM
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1. Pelosi doing a favor isn't necessarily the reason that American Samoa was exempted. If the cost of living in Samoa is low, it might not make sense to impose the minimum wage. I don't know what the cost of living is, but I bet its lower than the States.

2. I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt. Her constituents probably want that company to be healthy for the jobs it provides.

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1. And lower than every other American territory that isnt exempted? It was the only one, till she got caught. Get real.

2. Youre right it isnt, necessarily. But it is still hypocritical given the campaign rhetoric about "transparency", "bipartisanship", "eliminating earmarks", etc. It IS corrupt if she has a substantial ownership interest in the company, which one report said she did. It SMELLS and may actually be corrupt if they made substantial campaign contributions.

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You couldn't smell corruption if it was a powdery line on a mirror in front of you and you sucked it into your nostrils with a $100 bill. phulueese.

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Old 01-13-2007, 07:03 PM
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2. I hate to say this, but doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt. Her constituents probably want that company to be healthy for the jobs it provides.


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SO you are conceeding that raising the min wage costs jobs? I mean I everyoen pretty much agrees on that. I guess not even those on the left deny that they are counting on enough people to not understand this that are willing to put poor people out of work to be in power. I guess we can no longer start with the premise that people run for office to help people.
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Old 01-14-2007, 01:06 AM
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"doing favors for companies in your district is completely standard and does not mean Pelosi is corrupt."

I agree it's completely standard, but it's the very definition of corruption.
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