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Old 12-11-2006, 07:40 PM
Slappz Slappz is offline
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

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You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla

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Hes in position with JJ, thats the easiest call in the world.

"holla"
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

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You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla

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say hero is 20/15. he's raising 15% of his hands pre flop, so he must be raising at least 25% when it's folded to him on the button, probably more. if he folds JJ, he should also fold AK. so our opening range is 25% and our defense vs a 3bet range is QQ+, or 1.4%. i don't see any way we could be exploited doing that - looks fine.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

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ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.

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i like a call. i don't mind playing postflop when i'm in position, and 4betting risks folding out all of the worse hands. i think op's line is perfect as long as he folds the flop.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

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ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.

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putting in another raise preflop would be very bad, unless we got QQ to fold
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

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You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla

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have you played 2/4 on FTP?
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