Black People

[flair1239]

I disagree with the OP. Black People still annoy me as much as they ever have.


Also my prejudice towards Arabs has not escalated at all; although my prejudice against Asian-type people has increased. Primarily because of their increased immigration in my area, and also because they are really rude (especially the Asian cashiers at Wal-Mart). Although I will say that I respect the Older Asians... the ones in their late 40's and up.. they seem like really hard workers. However their off-spring seem to leave much to be desired.

[andywend]

You are the one claiming that blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites.

Since you are the one claiming the injustice, post a link from some sort of neutral source that says blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites.

I am assuming that you are trying to claim racial bias here so any links you provide should state that blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites SOLELY DUE TO THEIR SKIN COLOR.

[Sherman]

Thanks for the citation. It certainly was an interesting read. I thought you mentioned something about IQ score in your original post, but I didn't see it mentioned in this article, no matter.

I also thought it was important to note that while the article did provide some excellent statistics concerning mean scores for differnet portions of populations (based on income) it never provided measures of variability.

My major argument has been that while there are obvious and apparent differences on group mean scores (the reasons for which we clearly explained in the excellent article you provided), individual differences are far more prevelant.

For example, I would venture to guess that conscientiousness is more predictive of SAT scores than race. Unfortunately, the article did not touch on this issue. While group differences certainly merit discussion, I think better explanations for differences among people can be found using individuals as the unit of analysis rather than groups.

In terms of explanation for such differences, the article makes it quite apparent that racism (in one form or another) can be accountable for at least some of the difference.

What I mean to say is that apparent "intelligence" differences in blacks and whites aren't really as apparent as they seem to be. To my knowledge, no biological evidence or fMRI study has shown blacks to be inferior to whites in intelligence. However, countless studies, including the one you presented provide, a plethora of reasons why these differences exist; many of which revolve around racism.

I think we all can agree that this is the more important problem.

R. Sherman

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You are the one claiming that blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites.

Since you are the one claiming the injustice, post a link from some sort of neutral source that says blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites.

I am assuming that you are trying to claim racial bias here so any links you provide should state that blacks get longer/harsher sentences for comparable crimes than whites SOLELY DUE TO THEIR SKIN COLOR.

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i think that it is more of an economic issue than a race issue. crack is cheaper and lower class than cocaine and gets a much stiffer penalty. robbing a home gets a stiffer penalty than much white collar crime which can be even more devastating. c'est la vie.

[etxel]

I think the reason for the acceptance is that the new generation is more educated in terms of race. There has been more propaganda against racism now than there was about 30 or 40 years ago. And that has affected the newer generations and maybe this attitude of acceptance has been somewhat contagious to the older people. And I've noticed a lot of acceptance too even towards middle easterners and latin people. Maybe its related to the circles where I move.

[BradleyT]

I think many of the people talking about "acceptance" don't live in a segregated city or a city with a high black population (40% or more).

[BigBuffet]

Obviously you didn’t wade through throngs of typical black NBA fans on the street or in casinos. I did. I found the typical black NBA fan to be rude racist thugs.

As far as your comment about Hispanics and Arabs, I accept them more than black people. Hispanics may in large part be illegal aliens, but at least they work. And the typical Arab isn’t a CIA-recruited terrorist. Also, Hispanics and Arabs didn’t burn down large parts of many urban cities in the 60’s and 70’s.

Even other groups, such as Vietnamese and Somalis come here, open shops and cafes and work hard. They don’t moan about ‘the man’ and make excuses about not getting ahead.

I don’t socialize with any foreign group. I’m just saying that foreign people are accepted or not accepted the same as blacks, but they don’t let that hinder them.

And who says we have to accept people different than us? Your suggestion that white people seem to have increased their acceptance of black people can be explained because of political correctness and fear of exercising the 1st Amendment. Black people, however, are still free to say what they want without fear of politically correct thought police retribution. High school and college age white kids do accept blacks and their culture because they are susceptible to strong marketing programs which make them think they are cool when they impersonate the black thug culture.

[vkh]

I'll throw my own opinion on racism into the mix, because I think this is an important topic and don't think many people have a good grasp on what causes it.

I think prejudice/racism is really an offspring of a much more fundamental human desire to be accepted by peers. I personally believe that the worst offenders tend to have severe self-esteem issues. And I have also noticed that those people who are extremely well-adjusted tend to judge others by their personal qualities, not by race/skin-color.

By picking on a group that's different than them, those with low self-esteem seek to bond with those that they perceive as similar to them. To this end, it doesn't matter if the group being picked on is Black, Middle-Eastern, or Martian. In fact, if we were invaded by Martians, it would probably be the single most unifying experience for all the races of this earth. We'd have a "race" that was more distinct from us than anything we had seen before, posed an obvious threat, and the similarity between blacks and whites would all of a sudden dwarf the differences.

[Mickey Brausch]

I can just picture the 2+2 admins gasping and holding their breaths when they open the Special David Sklansky Forum and see threads with titles such as "Black People".

They must be asking themselves, horrified, "What will David blurt out next??"

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[Mickey Brausch]

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Yeah, I thought the exact same thing. Customers of what? I'm confused.

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I think he's referring to the people who attended the game in Las Vegas.

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One of the necessary attributes to qualify as a guru, if not a messiah, is never being clear.

You gotta have people scrambling to interpret what you just said. As an added touch, it's good when your pronouncements have the appearance of total clarity, yet on closer inspection are open to a myriad of interpretations.

Mickey Brausch