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Old 11-30-2007, 02:54 PM
DaBiggs DaBiggs is offline
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Default Re: Is a raise allowed here? Interesting hand scenario

the dealer/floor clearly got the ruling wrong. since you weren't the original raiser, you should have the option to re-raise. if you smooth-called, then the original raiser would not have the option to raise.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:50 PM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: Is a raise allowed here? Interesting hand scenario

Unfortunately, dealers and floor remember (or were taught)

Condensed Version of Rule:
If player X goes all-in for an amount less than a full raise (or half bet, depending on House rules and NL vs Limit), nobody can re-raise.

A Better Version:
If player X goes all-in for an amount less than a full raise (or half bet, depending on House rules and NL vs Limit), everybody (with enough chips) has to call him to continue in the hand. To see if somebody can re-raise, ignore the all-in player's bet.


PlayerA limps
PlayerB legal raise
PlayerC goes all in for less than a re-raise
PlayerD calls
PlayerE calls
PlayerF calls

Back to PlayerA.
If you ignore PlayerC, it is clear that PlayerA can raise, since he was raised by PlayerB.

If PlayerA now just calls, then it is back to PlayerB.
If you ignore PlayerC, then it is clear that PlayerB cannot raise, since nobody raised him.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:56 PM
All-inMcLovin All-inMcLovin is offline
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Default Re: Is a raise allowed here? Interesting hand scenario

Wow

That stupidity cost me $100.

Great explanation PantsonFire, may the poker gods shine on you.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:34 AM
DrMega DrMega is offline
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Default Re: Is a raise allowed here? Interesting hand scenario

That is a terrible ruling. I hope you racked up and left without giving them another dime in rake (though, if you're like me, you probably don't have a choice as to where to play). Good luck in the future.
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