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Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
Live 6/12 game. Lots of betting, and on the river player 1 bets out and player 2 raises. The action is headsup. Player 2 said very clearly (at least I heard it) "raizit" in his russian accent. Player 1 tables his hand without calling the bet. Player 2 says "send it" and opens his straight. Player 1 has a boat. The dealer reads both hands, and pushes the pot to player 1, after destroying the board and both hands (putting them back in the much/stub pile).
Floor is called over and the ruling is upheld. Is this correct? |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
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Live 6/12 game. Lots of betting, and on the river player 1 bets out and player 2 raises. The action is headsup. Player 2 said very clearly (at least I heard it) "raizit" in his russian accent. Player 1 tables his hand without calling the bet. Player 2 says "send it" and opens his straight. Player 1 has a boat. The dealer reads both hands, and pushes the pot to player 1, after destroying the board and both hands (putting them back in the much/stub pile). Floor is called over and the ruling is upheld. Is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] Well Player 1 needs to call the final bet, but he is welcome to do so right now if he would like. |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
Maybe not technically - but in the spirit of the best interest of the game it is.
I have seen this happen - and the dealer asked the player opening his hand whether he was calling or folding. The player then realized he had to push a bet out and did so (in my case without having seen the other hand). In this case the dealer assumed it was a call. And the Floor backed him up. Worst hand failed to win on a technicality. |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
Opening your hand heads up in a cash game is generally not a fold. The player is typically given the opportunity to act, even after opening his hand.
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
Couldn't you even turn your cards face-up in front of you and play the entire hand that way? (not sure why you'd want to) Turning your cards over does not fold your hand.
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
I think he should raise.
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
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Couldn't you even turn your cards face-up in front of you and play the entire hand that way? (not sure why you'd want to) Turning your cards over does not fold your hand. [/ QUOTE ] bingo as long as it's HU, you can do whatever you want. If you are routinely exposing cards multiway, then other players can rightfully object |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
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Live 6/12 game. Lots of betting, and on the river player 1 bets out and player 2 raises. The action is headsup. Player 2 said very clearly (at least I heard it) "raizit" in his russian accent. Player 1 tables his hand without calling the bet. Player 2 says "send it" and opens his straight. Player 1 has a boat. The dealer reads both hands, and pushes the pot to player 1, after destroying the board and both hands (putting them back in the much/stub pile). Floor is called over and the ruling is upheld. Is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] The only problem I see here is that the dealer should have asked player 1 if he calls the bet before awarding him the pot. It has already been pointed out that exposing your hand in a live game does not kill the hand, but a call must still be made either verbally or by putting the chips in the pot. The dealer made a mistake by assuming that it was a call and awarding the pot without making the player complete the action. |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
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[ QUOTE ] Live 6/12 game. Lots of betting, and on the river player 1 bets out and player 2 raises. The action is headsup. Player 2 said very clearly (at least I heard it) "raizit" in his russian accent. Player 1 tables his hand without calling the bet. Player 2 says "send it" and opens his straight. Player 1 has a boat. The dealer reads both hands, and pushes the pot to player 1, after destroying the board and both hands (putting them back in the much/stub pile). Floor is called over and the ruling is upheld. Is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] Well Player 1 needs to call the final bet, but he is welcome to do so right now if he would like. [/ QUOTE ] Of course it is possible that he said call in a low voice which the dealer heard, but OP didn't. |
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Re: Player didn\'t call the last bet but tabled his boat
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[ QUOTE ] Live 6/12 game. Lots of betting, and on the river player 1 bets out and player 2 raises. The action is headsup. Player 2 said very clearly (at least I heard it) "raizit" in his russian accent. Player 1 tables his hand without calling the bet. Player 2 says "send it" and opens his straight. Player 1 has a boat. The dealer reads both hands, and pushes the pot to player 1, after destroying the board and both hands (putting them back in the much/stub pile). Floor is called over and the ruling is upheld. Is this correct? [/ QUOTE ] The only problem I see here is that the dealer should have asked player 1 if he calls the bet before awarding him the pot. It has already been pointed out that exposing your hand in a live game does not kill the hand, but a call must still be made either verbally or by putting the chips in the pot. The dealer made a mistake by assuming that it was a call and awarding the pot without making the player complete the action. [/ QUOTE ] It's a limit game. It's such an obvious call that there is no need for the dealer to ask. If it was NL that would be different. |
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