*** Official joining every $4/180man until I win one ***

[Nate.]

Strife--

Dude, you could have gotten action from me. I totally understand that your goal is to play until you win. Let's just say that I think you're not 100% to do that.

But good luck and all.

--Nate

[Lord_Strife]

Shrug, it was probably incorrect in that spot because I wasn't left with that many chips but I don't see why you guys don't recognize that aces are played significantly differently than any other hand.

And now for whatever reason everyone in this thread thinks I'm a donkey because of my opinion on the KK hand but never bother to consider my skill set or opinions on anything else. Free country, obviously you're entitled to your opinion.

[Lord_Strife]

In 9 right now, positions are as follows:

8/21 TT<AA with 10bbs good for 12th or 13th i forget
14/32
26/54
48/72
78/90
66/100
84/126

as well as two more that just started so we're getting close to the money in the first one i signed up for

[Ontario_Tory]

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8/21 TT<AA with 10bbs good for 12th or 13th i forget


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I saw this hand, strife - I don't understand why you raised with TT in that position, with that stack. If you were getting called, you were getting 'em in. Why not open push PF?

(not that it would have mattered against aces, I just didn't understand the play).

GL with the quest.

OT

[Lord_Strife]

I was getting the chips in on any flop, I was just giving him another chance to fold something like AK... it's call a stop and go

[Nate.]

Well, it's not quite a stop-and-go, because after all where's the stop?

That said, there's some merit to not pushing pre here; the critical question is whether the action he gains from worse hands that would have folded outweighs the equity he loses the extra times he loses. I don't think that flop FE is a big part of Strife's play here (in practice; I guess it was in his head, though).

If you're trying to drum up some action, I actually think you should consider a limp in that spot. It's amateurish and makes you exploitable; at $4 tournaments it can also be wildly effective.

Good luck,

--Nate

[Lord_Strife]

Hey Nate,
He left out the part where someone reraised me to 4000 after I made it 2000 and i just called instead of putting hte rest in preflop, so i stop and goed to try to get ak to fold or whatever

[Lord_Strife]

Ironically throughout all this discussion about the actual odds of me winning one, I figured at some point Nate probably saw this and sent me a private message. If you recall earlier in this thread Nate said this:
[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

Dude, you could have gotten action from me. I totally understand that your goal is to play until you win. Let's just say that I think you're not 100% to do that.

But good luck and all.

--Nate

[/ QUOTE ]

A couple of days ago I PMed him looking for action and he responded with this gem that got me to chuckle:

[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

OK, sorry it took me a while to get back to you.

I've done some math on the subject, and I can't book the bet unless (a) there's some way to be sure that it's just you on the account and (b) unless I get at least 7-1 odds. I feel pretty bad about this, because when I crunched the numbers harder I saw that things were more in your favor than I'd expected. (More explicitly: I saw that more 4/180's go off than I'd remembered.)

Anyhow, please accept my apologies if I've wasted your time. And good luck.

All my best,

--Nate

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Um... excuse me? I was looking for action but no way in hell am I giving up 7:1 odds to do so. I do not win one 6/7 sessions, that's just crazy talk.

[Nate.]

[ QUOTE ]
Ironically throughout all this discussion about the actual odds of me winning one, I figured at some point Nate probably saw this and sent me a private message. If you recall earlier in this thread Nate said this:
[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

Dude, you could have gotten action from me. I totally understand that your goal is to play until you win. Let's just say that I think you're not 100% to do that.

But good luck and all.

--Nate

[/ QUOTE ]

A couple of days ago I PMed him looking for action and he responded with this gem that got me to chuckle:

[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

OK, sorry it took me a while to get back to you.

I've done some math on the subject, and I can't book the bet unless (a) there's some way to be sure that it's just you on the account and (b) unless I get at least 7-1 odds. I feel pretty bad about this, because when I crunched the numbers harder I saw that things were more in your favor than I'd expected. (More explicitly: I saw that more 4/180's go off than I'd remembered.)

Anyhow, please accept my apologies if I've wasted your time. And good luck.

All my best,

--Nate

[/ QUOTE ]


Um... excuse me? I was looking for action but no way in hell am I giving up 7:1 odds to do so. I do not win one 6/7 sessions, that's just crazy talk.

[/ QUOTE ]

Strife--

You said you'd be able to play for like >40 hours, many of which are during peak hours. I took pen to paper and estimated the probability that you'd win one. It was higher than I'd previously guessed, but lower than I thought you'd think. (You'd talked like it was a certainty.) And, of course, I was willing to move from the 7-1 line.

--Nate

[Lord_Strife]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ironically throughout all this discussion about the actual odds of me winning one, I figured at some point Nate probably saw this and sent me a private message. If you recall earlier in this thread Nate said this:
[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

Dude, you could have gotten action from me. I totally understand that your goal is to play until you win. Let's just say that I think you're not 100% to do that.

But good luck and all.

--Nate

[/ QUOTE ]

A couple of days ago I PMed him looking for action and he responded with this gem that got me to chuckle:

[ QUOTE ]
Strife--

OK, sorry it took me a while to get back to you.

I've done some math on the subject, and I can't book the bet unless (a) there's some way to be sure that it's just you on the account and (b) unless I get at least 7-1 odds. I feel pretty bad about this, because when I crunched the numbers harder I saw that things were more in your favor than I'd expected. (More explicitly: I saw that more 4/180's go off than I'd remembered.)

Anyhow, please accept my apologies if I've wasted your time. And good luck.

All my best,

--Nate

[/ QUOTE ]


Um... excuse me? I was looking for action but no way in hell am I giving up 7:1 odds to do so. I do not win one 6/7 sessions, that's just crazy talk.

[/ QUOTE ]

Strife--

You said you'd be able to play for like >40 hours, many of which are during peak hours. I took pen to paper and estimated the probability that you'd win one. It was higher than I'd previously guessed, but lower than I thought you'd think. (You'd talked like it was a certainty.) And, of course, I was willing to move from the 7-1 line.

--Nate

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Did you factor in how difficult it is to 12 table and how difficult it is to play after 12 hours? Fatigue and concentration is gonna suck hardcore if I'm doing this.