Slate.com on race and IQ

[DLKeeper1]

This is obviously a highly polarizing subject, but get your heads out of the sand...Ashkenazi Jews have been persecuted throughout history way more than current US Blacks. Sixty years ago the Ashkenazi Jews were pretty much robbed of everything, and had to start over again as poor immigrants. They've done ok since then.

Ashkenazi Jews FTW:

.2% of world population
25% of science Nobel Prize winners
27% of Ivy League students
16% of Time's Most Important 25 People


...and Albert Einstein

[West]

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This is obviously a highly polarizing subject, but get your heads out of the sand...Ashkenazi Jews have been persecuted throughout history way more than current US Blacks. Sixty years ago the Ashkenazi Jews were pretty much robbed of everything, and had to start over again as poor immigrants. They've done ok since then.

Ashkenazi Jews FTW:

.2% of world population
25% of science Nobel Prize winners
27% of Ivy League students
16% of Time's Most Important 25 People


...and Albert Einstein

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Apparently Einstein once said, "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

You are making quite a few assumptions in your comparison of Ashkenazi Jews to Black Americans.

[DLKeeper1]

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This is obviously a highly polarizing subject, but get your heads out of the sand...Ashkenazi Jews have been persecuted throughout history way more than current US Blacks. Sixty years ago the Ashkenazi Jews were pretty much robbed of everything, and had to start over again as poor immigrants. They've done ok since then.

Ashkenazi Jews FTW:

.2% of world population
25% of science Nobel Prize winners
27% of Ivy League students
16% of Time's Most Important 25 People


...and Albert Einstein

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Apparently Einstein once said, "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

You are making quite a few assumptions in your comparison of Ashkenazi Jews to Black Americans.

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I thnk that's a great quote and very applicable to this conversation. However, I think my argument still holds true. Of course, "race facts" do not define individuals, nor should they ever. What assumptions am I making?

[WhiteKnight]

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Of course, "race" facts do not define individuals, nor should they ever. What assumptions am I making?

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You are assuming nurture over nature to the tune of 100%.

Is it really so hard to believe the obvious intellectual discrepancies between races, in light of the fact that professional sports are dominated by Blacks (i.e. racial differences clearly exist)?

[X] Racist ban imo.

[DLKeeper1]

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Of course, "race facts" do not define individuals, nor should they ever. What assumptions am I making?

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You are assuming nurture over nature to the tune of 100%.

Is it really so hard to believe the obvious intellectual discrepancies between races, in light of the fact that professional sports are dominated by Blacks (i.e. racial differences clearly exist)?




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I'm assuming the opposite of what you say I'm assuming; that is that nature is more important than nurture. It seems as if you're agreeing with me in the second part of your statement?

[WhiteKnight]

Like I said, I didn't really read the thread (too long + too much BS to filter) and for some odd reason had you labeled in contrast to me. Clearly I need to work on my reading comprehension. Sorry for the misunderstanding, it appears we are in agreement [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[West]

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Like I said, I didn't really read the thread

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that much is obvious

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Is it really so hard to believe the obvious intellectual discrepancies between races, in light of the fact that professional sports are dominated by Blacks (i.e. racial differences clearly exist)?

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Believing that discrepencies between races exist, and that they are innate and immutable, are two different things.