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11-23-2007, 09:03 AM
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Re: Give me a 4bet size please
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[ QUOTE ] because it is a squeeze, i think you may as well just shove [/ QUOTE ] I dont get your logic here. imo the wider villains range the less money we need to risk to take it down as for the hand i'd raise to $80 and fold to a shove. [/ QUOTE ] Fold to a shove? I'm nowhere near pokerstove right now but after putting in almost half our stack we surely are commited to call a shove vs. a reasonable range. He might even look us up lighter if he is aware of the fact that we are sick of his 3-bets. 
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11-23-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: Give me a 4bet size please
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] because it is a squeeze, i think you may as well just shove [/ QUOTE ] I dont get your logic here. imo the wider villains range the less money we need to risk to take it down as for the hand i'd raise to $80 and fold to a shove. [/ QUOTE ] Fold to a shove? I'm nowhere near pokerstove right now but after putting in almost half our stack we surely are commited to call a shove vs. a reasonable range. He might even look us up lighter if he is aware of the fact that we are sick of his 3-bets. [/ QUOTE ] yes, you definitely cannot raise to $80 and fold
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11-23-2007, 09:15 AM
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Re: Give me a 4bet size please
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If he shoves QQ+, AKs, AK then $80 is pretty much bang on the amount where it doesn't matter if we call or fold to his shove. [/ QUOTE ] i think that $75+ is a mandatory call even if his range is QQ+, AKs, AKo. so $80 should be even easier. also his range may be bigger than that
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11-23-2007, 11:14 AM
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Re: Give me a 4bet size please
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] because it is a squeeze, i think you may as well just shove [/ QUOTE ] I dont get your logic here. imo the wider villains range the less money we need to risk to take it down as for the hand i'd raise to $80 and fold to a shove. [/ QUOTE ] Fold to a shove? I'm nowhere near pokerstove right now but after putting in almost half our stack we surely are commited to call a shove vs. a reasonable range. He might even look us up lighter if he is aware of the fact that we are sick of his 3-bets. [/ QUOTE ] yes, you definitely cannot raise to $80 and fold [/ QUOTE ] If he shoves JJ+, AKo, AKs then calling is break even. Unless i've seen them do it before i dont assume people shoving JJ here.
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