T9s trips river fold

[bobhalford]

I'd fold preflop with the 2/5 structure. With another caller in it's an easy call. As for the river, I suppose you were 93% sure you were beat?

[Wolfram]

The most likely hand for UTG is an overpair.
CO's range is a flush, 9x or a boat.

We have 18.4% equity vs CO's range. That's enough to call.

[TheHip41]

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The most likely hand for UTG is an overpair.
CO's range is a flush, 9x or a boat.

We have 18.4% equity vs CO's range. That's enough to call.

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**** poker stove, we have trips in a 14BB pot

[Oink]

Oh yeah I forgot its a 2/5 blind structure

Obviously makes preflop worse/less good. With a loose/bad BB I still call tho. If BB is tough I can prolly find a fold - altho its not exactly my forté

[TheHip41]

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Oh yeah I forgot its a 2/5 blind structure

Obviously makes preflop worse/less good. With a loose/bad BB I still call tho. If BB is tough I can prolly find a fold - altho its not exactly my forté

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with a 2/3 structure, I'm calling PF. I'm not a supernit, just a nit [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[jph0424]

Call this river every time. That was a bad fold. Also pf is ok. If cutoff does not cold call then I fold but as is you played it fine (until the river).

[ZOMG_RIGGED!]

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Therefore, it's probably best to check-call 1 bet on the turn and fold if it goes bet-raise.[/quote

uggh. We flop a monster, build a big pot, the turn check is so.....every gets a good chance to out draw us?

[efficacy]

I must say I am a little surprised that the vast majority of responders say that this fold is bad.

Normally I call in this spot, but I think I was swayed by the responses in PJ's recent "massive hero fold" where he folded the nut straight on the river getting 25:1 when I donked the rivered flush.

Shortly thereafter, I posted "massivish hero fold part two" thread where where I folded top two pair on the river getting like 25:1 where it was 'obvious' that my two pair was counterfeited.

In both of those threads, the overwhelming responses were 'that is a good fold', or 'easy fold', even though the OP in each thread was getting much better odds than I was in this particular hand.

I think the mistake I made in this hand was giving the player with donky-ish stats too much credit, as opposed to when PJ 'believed' that I had the flush every time because I am a "solid player" and played the hand exactly like a flush.

So, when you are in a spot like this vs a relatively unknown villain with donkeyish stats do you usually assign like 10-20% of his range to shenanigans?

River: CO bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.
Showdown: CO shows 55. Ship the pot to UTG's TT.

[censored] my [censored] you son of a [censored]! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Nothing tilts me like folding the winner.

[Spy Dog]

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Therefore, it's probably best to check-call 1 bet on the turn and fold if it goes bet-raise.

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uggh. We flop a monster, build a big pot, the turn check is so.....every gets a good chance to out draw us?

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Based on my analysis I believe we are behind on the turn and that our hand becomes the hand that is drawing. I really don't care if I've thrown a billion bets in the pot. If I'm drawing I don't want to bet unless it has fold equity or gets me a free card. Neither apply here so I check.