what am i supposed to do here

[king of the deck]

serious question. ive been playing online MTTs for a few years, i have the occasional big score, so im not completely noob. what am i supposed to do in this hand?

PokerStars Game $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200)
9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: leo_lpz63 (16120 in chips)
Seat 2: miacanes11 (28155 in chips)
Seat 3: thinpilot (9685 in chips)
Seat 4: fineaswine_1 (26280 in chips)
Seat 5: ASIWI (9120 in chips)
Seat 6: jungular (13182 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (28875 in chips)
Seat 8: babour89 (4245 in chips)
Seat 9: tigowoods (8030 in chips)
leo_lpz63: posts small blind 100
miacanes11: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ac]
fineaswine_1 said, "wouldnt first place be very nice?"
thinpilot: folds
fineaswine_1: folds
ASIWI: folds
jungular: folds
Hero: raises 400 to 600
babour89: folds
tigowoods: folds
leo_lpz63: calls 500
miacanes11: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d Kd Th]
leo_lpz63: checks
Hero: bets 1000
leo_lpz63: raises 2000 to 3000
Hero: raises 25275 to 28275 and is all-in
leo_lpz63: calls 12520 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8d Kd Th] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [8d Kd Th 5c] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
leo_lpz63: shows [8c 8s] (a full house, Eights full of Fives)
Hero: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
leo_lpz63 collected 32440 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 32440 | Rake 0
Board [8d Kd Th 5c 5d]
Seat 1: leo_lpz63 (small blind) showed [8c 8s] and won (32440) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
Seat 2: miacanes11 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: thinpilot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: fineaswine_1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ASIWI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jungular folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Hero showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 8: babour89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tigowoods (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[OrrLives]

Hmmm... a check raise on a flop like this screams at least KQ/KJ and maybe two pair+, occasionally QT or flush draw.

If you just call, villain will probably get his stack in anyways on the turn and river.

I don't mind the push without a read.

[LMAO]

type 'nh' and continue to play.

[king of the deck]

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type 'nh' and continue to play.

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lol

[CrazyLond]

I think I would have bet more on that flop. I would probably bet the size of the pot or maybe even a little more since it was such a drawy board.

As played, I do not like the shove. He's only calling with a hand that already has you beat or a huge draw which is not that big of a dog. If he has a hand like QdJd, he's actually a favorite. If you call his raise, the effective stack size is 12500 with 7500 in the pot. This is enough to still be able to get away from the hand. By you calling his check-raise, he knows you have something, he's probably putting you on AK or KQ or maybe a high flush draw. What makes this really hard is that you made a small flop bet for the texture of the flop. Depending on his skill level, at this point it's a possibility he may have sensed this as weakness and check-raised with a draw or nothing at all. Anyway, calling here leaves you more options. You can see another card and get more information. If a diamond comes it may prevent him from leading out and if not, at least get you off the hand. If the blank comes as it did, see what his action is. He may bet smaller to keep you around or may shove all in which may get you off the hand. Either way, there is little equity in pushing all-in on that flop. Even if he had check-raised you with a mediocre holding like KQ, you probably won't get a call out of him by pushing the flop and may win more on later streets.

[CrazyLond]

Just wanted to add, I don't think yours was a terrible play. A pair of aces versus a set on a drawy flop like that is always going to result in losing a lot. Even if I had done it my way and bet more, there is a good chance I could not have folded to a check-raise, nor a shove on the turn. I probably would have had the same end result but I think the plays I described would be more beneficial in general, not just when he happened to have a monster.

[king of the deck]

i bet 1000 on flop on a pot just over 1200, thought that was about the right amount, obv im trying to rep ak here
but yeah, i think just calling his checkraise is probaly the right move here, so deepstacked a shove is kind of a bonehead move

[Wish]

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what am i supposed to do here?

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Find a hand converter.

Then shove, and be happy you had enough chips to keep playing.

[CrazyLond]

Your 600+SB 600+BB 200 is 1400. I think 1000 into 1400 on that board is too small.

[king of the deck]

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Your 600+SB 600+BB 200 is 1400. I think 1000 into 1400 on that board is too small.

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great. i dont think its too small. thanks.