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Old 11-18-2007, 03:17 PM
mjws00 mjws00 is offline
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Default Re: How to beat those who call c-bets with like J-high in raise pots

You are never playing blind. Why is it so hard to put these guys on a range? If they are calling stations pf, and on the flop. You VALUE BET THEM TO DEATH. If they are chasing gutshots on the turn you should be in heaven and value betting any piece.

Guys calling with J high in raised pots are players you should be dying to play. The problem is you aren't adjusting. You can't run over calling stations. Slamming in extra bets when you are behind and there is ZERO chance they will fold is a mistake. So stop making it. Overplaying your weaker hands makes their play correct. Good old fashioned ABC poker works fine against these guys, it might be boring but spewing chips is wrong.

You are looking for spots to value bet, and using your superior hand reading skills to know when to get the money in. See some showdowns, apply systematic pressure, evaluate their response. Everyone has thresholds you just aren't looking for them. Quit spewing. There is no autopilot for NL HU. You'll discover they can fold on the turn, and if they won't fold the turn or river when behind the match will be done quickly.

If playing them tilts you, you really don't lose much value by flipping with them or trying to get it in with a very slight edge. It might save you 35 minutes of grinding and increase your hourly. Or open up a second or third table so you can play solid without getting bored.

-- 'Move up to where they respect your raises'
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:33 PM
shat4brains shat4brains is offline
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Default Re: How to beat those who call c-bets with like J-high in raise pots

move up to where they respect your raises

id limp a lot more often with this type of player than a standard tag
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:19 PM
waxhax0rs waxhax0rs is offline
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Default Re: How to beat those who call c-bets with like J-high in raise pots

For future reference, the term threebet is not equal to 3x the BB raise. In preflop terms, it means reraising an initial raiser (I spotted this right away in your post because I used to think this too).
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