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Old 11-17-2007, 03:50 PM
RustyBrooks RustyBrooks is offline
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I just started playing stud games recently and I have a lot of trouble with this. The method that works for me for razz sucks for stud/8. For razz I just remember the cards in order, like AA2699KQ although usually I lop off anything above 9.

For stud this actually is not that helpful because I don't "parse" that very well. When I'm looking at a hand and trying to figure out how many pair outs, straight outs, etc, that I have, I have to think "I need a 7. How many 7s are there. OK. Now, I need a T also. How many Ts are there". Remembering suits isn't really a problem for me so far, but I really only take note on 3rd if I see more than 2 of a suit, and after that I look at the board.

Just remembering folded cards is nice but I need to get them all before the first guy starts folding and then I lose track of who's folded what. Can I forget that 7 because he's still in the hand or was it a different 7 who folded. I just hope it comes with time.

I try to remember, every hand, and I'd say my success rate is something like 20%. But I figure as long as I keep trying it'll get better. Half the time by 5th I've totally forgotten, or forgotten enough that it isn't even really helpful.

I do try to reinforce any cards that I need or that I suspect my opponent needs.
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:29 PM
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Cool, I'm thinking about having my dad whos a programmer help me write a program to practice card memory.

If I do, I'll be sharing it with y'all.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:48 PM
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Ooh. It would be cool to have a program that flashes the upcards for like 10s, then asks you like a 5th st poker quiz given the action and hands up to that point.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:21 PM
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Ya, I was thinking something along the lines of a program that can flash a configurable amount of card images. For example you could set it to show you 10 cards, 1 at a time in 1 second intervals and then you have to pick which cards they were from a display of all 52 cards and you get scored on how many you get right. Or, you could set it to show you bundles of cards in 5 second intervals, etc.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: How much do the experts remember

First look at your hand and see if it's even worth playing, check suits, and make any observations about certain cards that may affect your hand or cards that are dead.

however, i usually don't even do that because its hard if your playing multiple tables and given the busto stakes i'm playing right now its not necessary to win
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:51 PM
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BTW, Rusty, what's with the blue hotdog lol.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: How much do the experts remember

The great chess master Reti published a chess book which had the chessboard set up in its initial position on its front cover. The legend underneath it read: a difficult position.

On being asked how many moves ahead he calculated, he replied: one.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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It's a photograph I took a long time ago, in kind of a weird series. It's kind of been my... emblem.

http://www.rustybrooks.com/Photos/DB...ge1&id=210
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:58 PM
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mmm... that mudpie looks delicious
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:06 PM
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How Much? 100%, anything less represents a weakness in your game. See Doc AZ post in the FAQ. Still need help, PM in a week for a great drill. Failure in this area is usually blamed on Variance, so you have the perfect excuse if the 100% is not meet. GL
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