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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
I agree with lev that calling here is iffy.
I think this is a nice spot to just shove and take the pot here or flip for a stack. The other option is a go and go ---> raise, and then shove just about any flop. |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
Thanks all
If I dont push but reraise preflop to ~2500 and then get re-reraised AI, am I calling there? Seems like I should get away at that point... or not? |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
If I think initial raiser will fold to a push, I push. If I think he won't, I'll call.
That said, raising anything other than all-in is a leak and shouldn't be done. |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
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If I think initial raiser will fold to a push, I push. If I think he won't, I'll call. [/ QUOTE ] What's you flop plan if you flat? Stop and go? |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
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I think this is quite an easy raise/push. If you raise, I think about 2,5-3k is a good ammount, so you can easily push any flop. The other possibility is to push right now. I don't like the idea of calling 88 oop with 16TBBs left, as if you don't hit your set there is hardly any flop you can play multiway. [/ QUOTE ] Read it, Loved it, Totally Agree with it Always raise here especially with youre image and youre stack covering both villains |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
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[ QUOTE ] If I think initial raiser will fold to a push, I push. If I think he won't, I'll call. [/ QUOTE ] What's you flop plan if you flat? Stop and go? [/ QUOTE ] Play for set value. And I'm going to repeat that raising anything other than all-in is sub-optimal. |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
youre not gonna hit sets enough to just flat this in multiway
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Re: 88 in SB.... squueze?
Yes you will. You need to make 3150 in implied odds after hitting a set to make the call +EV. You can make more than that more frequently here.
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Re: 88 in SB.... squeeze?
A raise to 2100 will likely end up with at least one call so you'll be looking at a pot of about 5000 with 4200 behind and OOP. Now you can't fold no matter what. It's also possible that Villain 2 will just move all-in if the action gets back to him pf. So if Villain 1 did call your raise, he will now call whatever action gets back to him. The last thing you want is to be all-in against both these players.
I think the best result for this hand is to win what's in the pot right now and that means shoving pf and making use of your fold equity. Villain 1 will be pretty sure that Villain 2 will call if he calls so he is in the same predicament of having everyone in the pot and the chance of being knocked out. Playing this pot against Villain 2 with his two overcards and lots of dead money is a pretty good second choice and is also a likelyhood. Edit: And by the way, a shove now takes all your decisions away and puts the hard ones into the hands of the villains. Now they can make a mistake by calling with 77 or folding 99. |
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Re: 88 in SB.... squeeze?
I don't like raising. If I had a note that the cold caller was a total donk, than maybe. Otherwise I set mine.
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