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Carson Palmer.
Def not Big Ben imo. |
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I'm not really convinced Cleveland has been that much better than Cincy, at least nowhere near enough as the record would indicate.
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Carson Palmer career record as starter: 35-34
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commish,
How good are Mike Vick and Vince Young? |
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Carson Palmer career record as starter: 35-34 [/ QUOTE ] Wow, he is over .500 on the Bengals. So he is the main force behind a team going from historically horrible to competitive is your argument against him? While Big Ben luckboxes into a great situation/team where he doesn't need to win games, just manage them, and now he is a better QB? Lets give Big Ben all the credit for that Super Bowl win, I mean he did carry the team on his shoulders with that sub 30 qb rating. |
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tony romo... the fact that he has 1 season under his belt and is already playing as well as he is confirms this
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Over a few drinks last night a debate ensued over who the third best quarterback in the NFL was. I was stating it was Ben Roethlisberger undoubtedly. Career record 41-14 as a starter, Super Bowl ring, 91.9 career passer rating, 72 TDs/49 INTs. Couldn't believe I heard one person say Tony Romo and another say Carson Palmer. Romo has I think 13 career starts, and Palmer has no excuse for being 2-6 with the talent they have on offense. Anyway, 2+2 who is the third best quarterback in the NFL, (assuming you put Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in some 1-2 order)?
It ain't Palmer's fault. He doesn't play defense last time I checked. If you give Palmer a defense. They would probably be 5-1 now. |
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I feel strongly the answer is Palmer. IMO people overestimate to what extent "surrounding talent" can make a QB look good. It works the opposite way too. I mean their WR's are legit but they wouldn't be great fantasy players w/ 'meh' QB's and I don't think there's any difference between Rudi Johnson and lots of "average RB's" on teams with bad QB's.
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Over a few drinks last night a debate ensued over who the third best quarterback in the NFL was. I was stating it was Ben Roethlisberger undoubtedly. Career record 41-14 as a starter, Super Bowl ring, 91.9 career passer rating, 72 TDs/49 INTs. Couldn't believe I heard one person say Tony Romo and another say Carson Palmer. Romo has I think 13 career starts, and Palmer has no excuse for being 2-6 with the talent they have on offense. Anyway, 2+2 who is the third best quarterback in the NFL, (assuming you put Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in some 1-2 order)? It ain't Palmer's fault. He doesn't play defense last time I checked. If you give Palmer a defense. They would probably be 5-1 now. [/ QUOTE ] That's fuzzy math. |
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Vick when active/healthy is a top 5-10 QB, while Vince Young is the most overhyped, overrated player in the NFL. He has 6TDs and 10 INTS this year.
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