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View Poll Results: If you have changed your beliefs, has your profession had anything to do with it?
YES 2 8.00%
NO 18 72.00%
I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY BELIEFS 5 20.00%
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Vyse Vyse is offline
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cabn, as discriminating as you are, if you ever read the Sports forum you would have had Vyse on ignore about a year ago.

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Or, you know, be as virtuous and pretentious as tug and refuse to ignore me simply because... well, whatever scenario you concocted to justify the torture you put yourself through. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:22 PM
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I stiff fairly regularly but I think I expect too much out of people. Often times I think I get bad service because I don't "dress up" to the place in which I'm eating. I have messy facial hair and might be wearing a baseball hat so I look like a broke college student when I'm actually 5 years out of school. lol. I think they see me and go "Broke ass mofo..." and the service is commensurate.

Last time I stiffed was about a week ago my gf and I eat at this pretty good fish place. It's new and this is the 2nd time we've eaten there but it doesn't appear that their business has "taken off" yet. You'd expect really good service, right?

They advertise "Happy hour all day everyday" which is effing awesome. $1.50 margaritas and $1.00 domestic drafts. Freaking unheard of in these parts. So I sit down and order a domestic beer. (I forgot to SPECIFY draft). I sort of figured either it was a given that I want the $1.00 beer or that the waitress will verify. She doesn't and comes out with a long-neck. No problem. I didn't even notice it was long-neck, until the bill comes and I'm charged $3.00 for it. WTF. Come on.

So she comes out and I point at the bill and say "I should have specified I wanted the dollar draft happy hour beer..." "Oh, sorry...I'm sorry I brought the bottle..." then just sort of weasles away. Whatever.

So I took the $2.00 out of what would have been her $3.00 tip and tipped $1.00. She bought my longneck for me. I honestly felt bad about it, but come on, she's gotta ask if I want draft or bottle, right??? To just assume I want $3.00 bottle is just a retarded way to make more money for them.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:39 PM
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when she assumes, she makes an.....you know the rest.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:50 PM
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If all the tipping threads were combined the tubes would clog instantly.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:09 PM
samsonite2100 samsonite2100 is offline
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WRT bar tipping, it should be $1 per drink/beer/glass of wine/etc. You tip the same for the bartender twisting off a bottlecap as you do for the five-minutes-to-prepare flaming Dr. Pepper shot, or whatever. It all averages out in the end.

If someone leaves me $20 on an $18 three drink order, I thank them and move on, though, while internally thinking "ok, kinda cheap, whatever." It would have to be an exceptionally bad tipping situation for me to say anything, as less than stellar tips are part of the job. It's pretty unprofessional to make a stink about a dollar.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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WRT bar tipping, it should be $1 per drink/beer/glass of wine/etc. You tip the same for the bartender twisting off a bottlecap as you do for the five-minutes-to-prepare flaming Dr. Pepper shot, or whatever. It all averages out in the end.

If someone leaves me $20 on an $18 three drink order, I thank them and move on, though, while internally thinking "ok, kinda cheap, whatever."

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I disagree with both of your assertions here.

1) I think tipping based off of effort makes sense. Let's say it's a crowded bar, two deep, people waiting to order. Hell even if it's not that packed a bartender's attention is probably wanted elsewhere. To go to the trouble of preparing an elaborate drink or shots is more tip-worthy than twisting the top off of three Miller Lites and should be compensated accordingly.

2) In that vein, a $2 tip for a quick $18 order seems VERY reasonable to me. I'm compensating a bartender to the tune of $2 for <1 minute of work, hell probably <30 seconds even if you consider the time he took to come over and hear my order. Multiply this by around 20-30 transactions per hour (accounting for down time and other non-compensatory job duties, this is a conservative figure that's probably higher) and this guy is making a ton of money. To feel indignant about a $2 tip in that circumstance is pretty presumptuous. Particularly in the example you gave, where it's just super easy to hand over a $20 and be done with it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:16 PM
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My bill was $14.75 and all I had was a $20. When the cashier gets done being a lazy worthless [censored], he asks me if I want my change in one dollar bills. I was still going to leave a tip until he asked that question.


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I dont think you were still going to leave a tip. If so why would this question bother you? People who take breaks are lazy? Redic, your just probably broke not tipping and posting stories to make yourself feel better.
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