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[ QUOTE ] right, and I'm sure that's how it appeared to the villain. So he can eliminate AA and KK from your range, maybe even QQ. Here's what you have shown him: you don't want any callers, and you've left yourself room to fold. Given that you were the BB raising 4 limpers, you could have done this with any two. [/ QUOTE ] i disagree. if i have AA or KK on the first hand at the ft with this action there's no way im gonna put in a cheese raise and invite everybody in. i'd jack it up to like 20k too. hand 1 i think i play the same. don't listen to the guy saying you turned your hand into a bluff because 9 times out of 10 you have the best hand here and are dealing with straightforward limpers where there's significant value in bumping it up. i think you got caught in a tough spot here but recognized the situation well and made the right fold. hand 2 we're obv not cold calling oop so its either 3 bet or fold and i think i fold. you said seif was a maniac but is he really limper owning at hand 2 of the ft? aside from that your image is screwed up from the last hand and you could get looked up with a wider range now. |
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I would snap call it.
You get lovely pot odds, and you are kind of committed in my mind unless it's 100% he has AA/KK. You are not going to win these tournees with folds like these. |
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You are not going to win these tournees with folds like these. [/ QUOTE ] OMG RONG!!! |
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I would snap call it. You get lovely pot odds, and you are kind of committed in my mind unless it's 100% he has AA/KK. You are not going to win these tournees with folds like these. [/ QUOTE ] If there is any time to call a limpreraise it is this. OP's bet size tell and the action with multiple limper make it look like OP is stealing. Villain is described as aggressive. JJ is a strong hand. I think there is enough chance villain is making a play or he planned the limpreraise with AK something else other than a higher pp that you have odds to call. |
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you said seif was a maniac but is he really limper owning at hand 2 of the ft? [/ QUOTE ] why the heck not? what is "beginning of final table" gonna change seif from being a total spewtard in position? very ez shove in hand 2 imo, assuming i have the stacksizes right. |
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its sound strategy to play solid at the start of the final table. first impressions are the lasting ones. if you play like a maniac from the get go then its tougher to abuse everyone later. of course this is how i think and who knows how mark seif thinks. but id imagine he's showing up with air here a lot less often than you think.
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of course this is how i think and who knows how mark seif thinks. [/ QUOTE ] i understand your thought process against decently thinking live players who at least try to following the Harrington mindset, but from what I know of Seif's game from TV and from what friends told me this week sitting w/ him in Niagara, he is a total spewtard preflop and postflop. As such I feel you have to throw conventional solid thinking out the window and instajam just about any ace, broadway, or pair in hero's spot. a decent analogy would be, same stacksizes deep in a sunday warmup, everyone is unknown (including hero) except button who is djk123. |
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aside from that your image is screwed up from the last hand and you could get looked up with a wider range now. [/ QUOTE ] so great. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] poker. |
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Here is the main problem with hand 1. I think that you raised the exact wrong amount. I am not trying to be unnecessarily harsh about it. But I mean if you raised less, then you can fold, or if you raised to like 30-35k, you have to call. I just think that this exact level of raise put you in the absolutastic [censored] level.
hand 2: if its djk im shoving AJs here all day. So im shoving against mark seif |
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