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Old 10-30-2007, 12:38 AM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: simple preflop decision against shortstacker

How much does the concern of getting shoved over by the UTG raiser influence your range?
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: simple preflop decision against shortstacker

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How much does the concern of getting shoved over by the UTG raiser influence your range?

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Not that much. But him calling and me being OOP with a dry sidepot and having to dodge possibly 4 overcards or an overpair is not a scenario I'm very happy about.
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: simple preflop decision against shortstacker

i lean towards a fold, but if i decide to play i'd just call. im not too concerned about being oop postflop vs the bad player, he's rarely gonna make you fold the best hand.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:25 AM
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i lean towards a fold, but if i decide to play i'd just call. im not too concerned about being oop postflop vs the bad player, he's rarely gonna make you fold the best hand.

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one big way that bad players screw up dry side pots is by betting in dumb spots, like with a low flush draw or with A hi or something. utg is either going to make hero fold the best hand sometimes, or utg is going to stack hero when he has a bigger pp or outflops 99.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: simple preflop decision against shortstacker

55% is too high I think (I think the answer is 52% but haven't checked the math). 5% total chance one of them will have an overpair, and our equity will still be 20%. I don't think that will shift our equity that much
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:40 AM
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fold,

i hate curtains
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:58 AM
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gj schwza, thats the kind of thing we need more of to beat these clowns. you're right about the sidepot thing too, i've been "bluffed out" of a lot of dry or small sidepots by dumber players in my day.
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