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#291
10-18-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
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wtf, take the mcbill and kohleppel stuff out of that, the mcbill is extremely speculative and the kohleppel is flat out wrong. For anyone else who doesn't bother reading the thread before commenting: THOSE AP TOURNEY WINNINGS SCREENSHOTS DON'T NECESSARILY SHOW TOURNAMENTS YOU PLAYED AND DID NOT CASH IN, ESPECIALLY SATELLITES. THIS IS THE REASON KOHLEPPEL APPEARS TO HAVE WON 8 MILLION SATS IN A ROW. [/ QUOTE ] Yea, just FYI, this is his full history on AP. It is not suspicious to me. Date Buyin Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings 10/7/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 432 532 — 10/5/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 13 16 — 10/4/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 22 $162.00 10/3/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 22 122 — 10/3/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 183 256 — 9/30/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 14 18 — 9/30/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 381 459 — 9/30/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 17 18 — 9/29/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 277 401 — 9/27/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 7 27 — 9/27/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 27 34 — 9/27/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 18 $50.00 9/27/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 15 18 — 9/26/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 105 273 — 9/25/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 15 $162.00 9/25/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 197 290 — 9/24/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 6 9 — 9/23/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 388 492 — 9/23/2007 $25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 6 12 — 9/23/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 6 18 — 9/22/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 1 310 $38,750.00 9/22/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 303 513 — 9/21/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 24 $162.00 9/21/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 48 326 — 9/20/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 139 387 — 9/20/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 654 763 — 9/20/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 88 385 — 9/20/2007 $18 NL Hold'em 4 8 — 9/20/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 221 447 — 9/20/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 63 367 — 9/20/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 312 323 — 9/19/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 1 17 $530.00 9/19/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 19 63 — 9/19/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 119 $20.00 9/19/2007 $50 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 60 67 — 9/19/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 7 16 — 9/19/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 18 18 — 9/19/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 4 9 — 9/19/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 3 16 — 9/19/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 58 122 — 9/19/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 16 18 — 9/18/2007 $20 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 13 18 — 9/18/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 145 272 — 9/18/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 10 17 — 9/18/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 9 19 — 9/17/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 3 139 $150.52 9/17/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 293 391 — 9/17/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 15 18 — 9/17/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 12 13 — 9/17/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 121 292 — 9/16/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 153 478 — 9/14/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 100 118 — 9/14/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 79 319 — 9/13/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 220 309 — 9/13/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 12 17 — 9/13/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 11 18 — 9/12/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 140 401 — 9/12/2007 $5 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 90 134 — 9/12/2007 $0.50 NL Hold'em 53 112 — 9/11/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 23 26 — 9/11/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 238 264 — 9/11/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 20 $162.00 9/10/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 65 115 — 9/9/2007 $30 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 83 180 — 9/9/2007 $5 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 79 100 — 9/9/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 419 523 — 9/9/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 14 116 $25.33 9/9/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 456 480 — 9/9/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 290 329 — 9/8/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 290 297 — 9/8/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 64 79 — 9/8/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 27 474 $15.09 9/6/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 207 259 — 9/6/2007 $5 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 18 87 — 9/6/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 23 $162.00 9/6/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 2 310 $185.93 9/6/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 6 23 — 9/5/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 3 18 — 9/5/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 9 $530.00 9/5/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 11 22 — 9/5/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 2 14 $50.94 9/2/2007 $150 NL Hold'em 17 487 — 8/31/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 255 340 — 8/31/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 186 328 — 8/31/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 246 324 — 8/31/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 68 366 — 8/30/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 2044 2196 — 8/29/2007 $20 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 8 18 — 8/29/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 3 13 — 8/29/2007 $25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 4 37 — 8/29/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 38 319 — 8/29/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 230 317 — 8/28/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 22 23 — 8/27/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 135 264 — 8/27/2007 $0.25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 278 $5.00 8/27/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 296 738 — 8/27/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 17 95 — 8/27/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 59 117 — 8/27/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 39 380 $6.91 8/23/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 1582 2281 — 8/23/2007 $0.25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 168 $5.00 8/22/2007 $0.50 NL Hold'em 41 135 — 8/20/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 71 361 — 8/20/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 165 306 — 8/19/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 328 365 — 8/19/2007 $0.25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 136 310 — 8/19/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 12 338 $34.60 8/19/2007 $18 NL Hold'em 39 133 — 8/17/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 98 369 — 8/16/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 295 382 — 8/16/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 1188 1951 — 8/16/2007 $0.25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 1 198 $5.00 8/16/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 48 69 — 8/16/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 52 408 — 8/16/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 8 13 — 8/15/2007 $15 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 9 27 — 8/15/2007 $0.25 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 113 255 — 8/15/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 191 398 — 8/15/2007 $4 NL Hold'em 20 35 — 8/15/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 171 437 — 8/15/2007 $6 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 13 21 — 8/15/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 305 319 — 8/12/2007 $1 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 63 389 — 8/10/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 101 314 — 8/9/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 6 350 $71.66 8/7/2007 $2 NL Hold'em 273 385 — 8/7/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 231 788 — |
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#293
10-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
Just separate it out into "known" and "still being researched". And include how we know anything on the "known" list.
And Willaim Willis' middle name is McMahon, which is why MCBill is fishy. |
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#294
10-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
Ugh- who put the danasoft pic up for me to deal with.
fwiw. I withdrew that william mcmahon stuff right away as tenuous and with little to go on. edit: and just to be completely clear on it- the guy in the frat was named william willis mcmahon. Not william willis. I wish I hadnt even noted the strangeness of it at all earlier at this point. |
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#295
10-18-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
N82,
Bill plays 2 $500 buy in tourney's...busts within first 4-5 hands in 1 and wins the other.... I know its pure speculation but the other winners had similar things...albeit he plays lots and lots of small buyins as well... He may actually be a regular player on AP but wanted in on the action... Until "Mcbill" from Absolute chimes in...I think he's just as likely to have been part of the gang ! Vava |
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#296
10-18-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
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THE PLAYERS -------------------------- ABSOLUTE POKER "Absolute Poker and the Absolute Poker website are solely owned and operated by Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, Route 138, Kahnawake, Quebec J0L 1B0. Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG is owned by a Mohawk of Kahnawake and is operated from the sovereign nation of the Mohawks of Kahnawake, located near Montreal Quebec." [/ QUOTE ] Here's some more info that was sent to me about Tokwiro: "According to the Quebec Business Registrar, Tokwiro Enterprises Enrg belongs fully to Joe Norton. Joe Norton is the former chief of the Kahnawake Council AND the founder of the Kahnawake Gaming Commission. He is also involved in the Mohawk Internet technologies, the company that is hosting most of the online casinos registered with the KGC. His full name is Joseph Tokwiro Norton." I was also given this link http://www.registreentreprises.gouv....n/default.aspx Apparently it contains a lot of info about Joe Norton, but a lot of what I've found is in french and I can't understand it. But I can tell that people here will be able to find a lot of info there, get looking. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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#298
10-18-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
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[ QUOTE ] ugh I really wish I could delete that first post I made. It has contributed to this stuff and I wish it hadn't. I made a mistake in posting my speculation guys (albeit with strange coincidences). Please don't post more. [/ QUOTE ] pointless links to cherrypicked DB deleted [/ QUOTE ] As has been pointed out a dozen times YOU ARE ONLY POSTING RESULTS OF WHEN THIS PLAYERS CASHED... you must subscribe to the service to see all tourney results... do this and then post all results not just cashes... |
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#299
10-18-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
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N82, Bill plays 2 $500 buy in tourney's...busts within first 4-5 hands in 1 and wins the other.... I know its pure speculation but the other winners had similar things...albeit he plays lots and lots of small buyins as well... He may actually be a regular player on AP but wanted in on the action... Until "Mcbill" from Absolute chimes in...I think he's just as likely to have been part of the gang ! Vava [/ QUOTE ] either we have proof or it's getting shut down, because I'm not about to drag half of the Absolute playerbase into this in a thread with mass media exposure where being proven wrong can potentially be a big problem. facts or nothing. |
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#300
10-18-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)
These guys have gotten way more than a million dollars.
No wonder I'm down on Absolute in MTTs. |
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