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Re: KK in the BB
flop check is fine imo
i would b/f the turn as we have decent equity against heart flush draws, and it doesnt appear an ace is out there (tho it might be - id rather bet than give a free card away, however). remember, the pot is large and if we're ahead our hand is worth trying to protect. we should probably be able to fold out gutshots (w/no heart obv) and PP's that combined would have perhaps 7-8 outs against us. |
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Re: KK in the BB
I agree that overcalling here with KK is definitely a losing proposition.
Would we call if the button bet and we were the first to act after it? I think it's close, and in that case, I think I'd find a fold, however, if only one or two people were left to act, then I would probably find a call in this largish pot. |
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Re: KK in the BB
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checking flop & turn then betting river is a bluff - its not standard. Your gonna get looked up be any A to catch that bluff. [/ QUOTE ] while this is true, i don't think it applies soley to those holdings with an ace in hand. it's possible alot of pairs look us up after this action(or lack thereof). i like the flop check. put me in the turn bet/fold camp. while a worse hand might raise the flop as a semibluff or for value i seriously doubt this happens multiway on the turn. as such, we should get a pretty honest reaction when we bet. |
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Re: KK in the BB
5 in the pot -- my guess is that at least 2/3 of the time, someone has an ace (maybe with a garbage kicker) and is going to call you for one bet.
If you tell me that someone slowplayed a flush and raised on the river, I wouldn't be shocked here. |
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Re: KK in the BB
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flop check is fine imo i would b/f the turn as we have decent equity against heart flush draws, and it doesnt appear an ace is out there (tho it might be - id rather bet than give a free card away, however). remember, the pot is large and if we're ahead our hand is worth trying to protect. we should probably be able to fold out gutshots (w/no heart obv) and PP's that combined would have perhaps 7-8 outs against us. [/ QUOTE ] You also might be able to fold out some lowly lone hearts, which I think is very important. |
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Re: KK in the BB
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checking flop & turn then betting river is a bluff - its not standard. Your gonna get looked up be any A to catch that bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Why do we think someone has any A? |
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