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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
I shove this flop like 20-25% of the time, but I don't like doing it often. It embraces variance so much.
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] since the best hand he can have is TPGK. [/ QUOTE ] is a set not part of his range here? [/ QUOTE ] I was working on your assumption that we have 15 outs. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] since the best hand he can have is TPGK. [/ QUOTE ] is a set not part of his range here? [/ QUOTE ] I was working on your assumption that we have 15 outs. [/ QUOTE ] ah, my bad. what about 12 outs Jay? |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
You honestly can't really go wrong either way in this hand.
I tend to call here more than many, but given that you don't have any history, I'd raise it up here. I tend to think people aren't that strong when they first make this play, and it's some really cheap metagame. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] Board: Kh Td 2d Wins Ties Equity 54.39% 0.45% 54.85% ( AA,AK ) 44.70% 0.45% 45.15% ( AdJd ) Raise/call [/ QUOTE ] come on man, why did you even waste your time posting this? obviously I know our equity is very good, and obviously I'm not folding. my question was which is better? [/ QUOTE ] To me knowing the equity against that range was an important thing. It also showed me what I would do, and I had thought it would be reasonably obvious why. I could elaborate more on that ofcourse, but instead of asking for that in a normal way you do this which puts me off entirely. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
I assume a push vs call descision
equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 62.666% 62.51% 00.15% 5570 13.50 { AcAh, AcAs, AhAs, KcKd, KcKs, KdKs, TcTh, TcTs, ThTs } Hand 1: 37.334% 37.18% 00.15% 3313 13.50 { AdJd } x82+y(z)=0 z=.37*267 -.62*215 z=98.79-133.33 z=-34.54 82x - 34.54y =0 82x - 34.54(100 - x)=0 x=3454/116.54 x=29% if you don't think you have 29% FE here than just call. pot will be 115, we will need to make only $15 when we hit (47-12)/12=1:3 32 *3=96, we're currently calling 32 in a 83 pot so we should make our money back and then some if we hit on the turn. I honestly don't think you can go wrong either way here. *I didn't even include AK in his range so realistically that means we could get by with even 26% FE |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
I raise this alot.
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Board: Kh Td 2d Wins Ties Equity 54.39% 0.45% 54.85% ( AA,AK ) 44.70% 0.45% 45.15% ( AdJd ) Raise/call [/ QUOTE ] come on man, why did you even waste your time posting this? obviously I know our equity is very good, and obviously I'm not folding. my question was which is better? [/ QUOTE ] To me knowing the equity against that range was an important thing. It also showed me what I would do, and I had thought it would be reasonably obvious why. I could elaborate more on that ofcourse, but instead of asking for that in a normal way you do this which puts me off entirely. [/ QUOTE ] i wasn't trying to put you off. but your post pretty much stated the obvious. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
don't think there is any need for more analysis here.
I raised, he shoved, I called...I missed against his set of 2s. |
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Re: 200nl - pretty standard hand. combo draw in 3-bet pot
i call the flop and then depending on how much he bets or if he bets the turn i would shove/pot the turn. makes ur hand seem stonger, like a set, rather than raising/shoving the flop which sometimes looks like "OMG COMBO DRAW, 3BET POT."
his turn play will also define his hand more as well |
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