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Old 09-24-2007, 01:50 AM
Nick Rivers Nick Rivers is offline
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Default Re: Flopped Straight Live Deep

Where was the flop raise? I might even have moved in with that sort of flop after that preflop. Given the preflop action, it's unlikely he's going to put you on T8 of all things. At the very least, kick it up to 2400-3000 on the flop and then fire a big bomb on the turn. The way you played it, you're probably beat. I don't think a tough TAG leads out into you after all of that aggression from you with anything you can beat. You might see a busted flush draw with AdKd, but probably not frequently enough for the river call to be profitable.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:00 AM
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You reraise preflop with T8 and flop the nuts, and get donked into and you flat call for deception? Are you leveling us or something?
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Straight Live Deep

i guess in short raise the flop and then, continue value betting turn, guessing a shove is insta called if flop is raises odds and such, and also flop raise i think may let QQ or such think 44 helped and bet into u
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:29 PM
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Not raising the flop here is terrible. As played, I'm calling this river.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:14 AM
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You reraise preflop with T8 and flop the nuts, and get donked into and you flat call for deception? Are you leveling us or something?

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Old 09-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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CALL.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:21 PM
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Readless, I curse fold.

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what
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Straight Live Deep

Poster already stated, you already achieved deception by 3betitng T8 and now have the nuts, shoulda raised flop, as played I would call but wouldnt be super happy about it. Villain may think the second 4 helped if you had J9 or somehting. I would expect to see QQ 25% of the time, AKcc some %, and 77, and 99 some of the time. Based off the glaring quick call I think the boat is less likely and def. not JJ.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:49 PM
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raise flop, more on turn, call river.
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