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Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
Caesars Palace 2-5 game with a forced straddle
Villain is Dr. Amir Naseeri, the superdonk from HSP. He's super-loose-aggressive, and he knows I'm a pro. I have $2600. He has me covered. Amir limps UTG Everyone folds to me in SB I raise to 60 with KK BB calls Straddle calls Amir reraises to 450 With AA, I would reraise to 1000 and shove any flop (or, if the flop was uncoordinated, I might check the flop and shove the turn). With KK, however, I am concerned that an A might flop, and then what do I do? Is this a valid concern, or should I play KK the same way I play AA here? |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
i like the 1k/shove line. But is there better? What kinds of hands do you think he could have here? Would he talk himself into calling with 88-QQ if you just shoved (thinking you have AK)? I'm just thinking that you lose some value vs. TT when an over flops, AK when he whiffs, etc.
I think the hand comes down to what his calling range is pre vs. post flop. I don't think you get a lot of value from him postflop unless he outflops you. Another thing to remember is that there's a very small chance of an ace flopping in the first place, and considering the action it is likely that there are only 2 left in the deck. If you like the 2 stage shove enough with AA, I don't think there's enough of a difference with KK all things considered. Are you shoving AK, QQ, JJ here? Sorry for the long response/all the questions. This is a very interesting spot |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
bump it up to 1150 get hu go from there.
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
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i like the 1k/shove line. But is there better? What kinds of hands do you think he could have here? [/ QUOTE ] I think he could have almost anything. [ QUOTE ] Would he talk himself into calling with 88-QQ if you just shoved (thinking you have AK)? I'm just thinking that you lose some value vs. TT when an over flops, AK when he whiffs, etc. [/ QUOTE ] I think he might call a shove preflop with QQ or AK. [ QUOTE ] I think the hand comes down to what his calling range is pre vs. post flop. I don't think you get a lot of value from him postflop unless he outflops you. [/ QUOTE ] I think if he flops an overpair he'll call my shove. [ QUOTE ] Another thing to remember is that there's a very small chance of an ace flopping in the first place, and considering the action it is likely that there are only 2 left in the deck. If you like the 2 stage shove enough with AA, I don't think there's enough of a difference with KK all things considered. [/ QUOTE ] I guess you're right. I just looked it up, and apparently there is only an 11.67% chance of an A flopping without a K. Given that, I guess I should just play it the same way as AA. What do I do, though, when an A does flop? I've already put >40% of my stack in. That's what makes it so hard. [ QUOTE ] Are you shoving AK, QQ, JJ here? [/ QUOTE ] Not for 2600. With 1000, I probably would. |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
Okay, since your assessment is that his range preflop is wide, the 2-stage approach is fine.
My thinking is that if he would call a shove often preflop but not postflop, you shove immediately. if he would fold to a shove often preflop but stack off postflop if he flops tptk, middle overpair, etc then you get more value from him with the 2-stage approach (assuming he's never folding to your 1k repop). If an ace flops you're going to have to assess based on his action/the other two cards on the board. Say the flop is A27r and you check to him. WIll he shove 88? 87s? air??? I wish I had seen the episode with him in it, since I really have no idea what kinds of moves he would be liable to make. I guess if he's going to limp/repop with lots of hands he will prolly shove often when checked to. |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
I like flatting here and seeing what comes out but if you think he'll stick in 500bbs preflop with TT or something than 4betting/calling shove looks good.
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
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I like flatting here and seeing what comes out but if you think he'll stick in 500bbs preflop with TT or something than 4betting/calling shove looks good. [/ QUOTE ] I might use a flat call and c/r a non Ace flop. Or go with your original repop to 1k and closed eyes shove on flop. I dont see many A's in his range very often unless it is AA and possibly AK but I think you are more likely to find a smaller PP, or SC, |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
I repop it to 1200.
-Pot is big. Go after it. -He likes to gamble (from your read). -He will call/shove with tons of dominated crap (TT-QQ,AK). -You want to get money in as soon as possible since many cards kill your action (ie. he has JJ and a Q-A flops). -It sets up future spots for you to exploit whether he calls, folds, or shoves with your PF aggression. -He seemed like a toolbag so if he does have AA putting a badbeat on him would be extra special [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
[ QUOTE ]
I repop it to 1200. -Pot is big. Go after it. -He likes to gamble (from your read). -He will call/shove with tons of dominated crap (TT-QQ,AK). -You want to get money in as soon as possible since many cards kill your action (ie. he has JJ and a Q-A flops). -It sets up future spots for you to exploit whether he calls, folds, or shoves with your PF aggression. -He seemed like a toolbag so if he does have AA putting a badbeat on him would be extra special [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Was he wearing an Italian sportcoat and Versace shades with some gold linked bracelets? If he was fold. I remember from HSP there was an excerpt where he said you have to dress really cool to play well. At least I think that was him.. |
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Re: Caesars 2-5-10: KK vs. Dr. Amir
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I just looked it up, and apparently there is only an 11.67% chance of an A flopping without a K. [/ QUOTE ] This can't be right. Probability that an Ace flops given that you have KK is 1-[(46/50)(45/49)(44/48)]= 0.225. I can't see this number being divided in half by including the times you flop a set. |
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