Decision at WPT Gulf Coast Championship FT

[DonkeyChip]

I think the reason the amount changes should make a difference. If the player was told the wrong amount then that's one thing but if the player was not paying attention enough to know and didn't bother to ask...tough toenails IMO.

I understand how Edler could use the info to his advantage, that was made pretty clear in the op. But again, tough toenails for the one who screwed up...i.e. the BB. It just seems like a huge injustice for the BB to get bailed out by the floor at the expense of Edler. Edler got screwed.

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The rules don't exist for players to use them as a tool to exploit weaker players, or a tool to extract information or chips out of a weaker player.

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Whether the player is weaker or not isn't relevant...just sub the word 'other' for 'weaker' in that statement and it is much more accurate. And that's exactly what the BB was allowed to do here...a rule allowed him to extract information out of a player (i.e. the info of how Edler would react to his reraise before he ever puts a chip in the pot).

BTW - I said in the other thread that I thought the GCPC was well run and I had a great time. And I still think that...one floor decision is just a drop in the bucket and I'm not trying to make a big deal of it. But you asked so I'm replying. There are constellations of different scenarios that a simple set of rules just can't fully cover. I just look for solutions that have as little injustice to them as possible and I think Edler suffered an injustice. Just my stinkin' opinion. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[BusterFlush]

While there may be disagreement on this decision, it seems obvious that Mr. Groom's intent was to do that right thing for all parties and the fact he is discussing it here deserves credit.
How many times has a TD made a decision that turned out wrong and through ego and arrogance defended that decision just so he would not admit a mistake?

[JohnnyGroomsTD]

Warm fuzzy.....LOL

players' insight, as well as the insights of other knowledgeable TD's is a great tool here. Consensus seems to indicate that while my intentions were good, most would have rules that the reraise was rewuired by the BB. still open for debate, but at least this thread has been productive. I hope it sheds a little light into the thought processes a TD must go through in order to make a decision with gravity....

TY,
JG