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NL re-raise rule
It got boned at our casino tonight. 1/2 NL. Dude leads for $40, MP goes all-in for $77, CO calls $77, Dude re-raises to $150, CO goes WTF?!?!
Floor rules that since the raise was more than half the original bet, Dude is allowed to re-raise. Ai yi yi. Anyway...I was trying to figure out the origin/purpose of this rule in NL. Is it to prevent collusion? |
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Re: NL re-raise rule
in no limit it has to be a raise for the full min. raise on a all in, in order to reopen the raising to the bettor. in limit half a raise will reopen.
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Re: NL re-raise rule
$40 open raises at 1/2 NL?
That's like opening for $200 in 5/10. cute...lol |
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$40 open raises at 1/2 NL? That's like opening for $200 in 5/10. cute...lol [/ QUOTE ] Which I have actually seen... |
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[ QUOTE ] $40 open raises at 1/2 NL? That's like opening for $200 in 5/10. cute...lol [/ QUOTE ] Which I have actually seen... [/ QUOTE ] and it's cute everytime a donk does this, they flip over AA and say, :i'd rather win a small pot with aces than lose a big one... |
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Re: NL re-raise rule
Floor is correct, half the size of the original raise constitutes a new raise. In some places though only the full size counts, its a matter of house rules.
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[ QUOTE ] $40 open raises at 1/2 NL? That's like opening for $200 in 5/10. cute...lol [/ QUOTE ] Which I have actually seen... [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: NL re-raise rule
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Floor is correct, half the size of the original raise constitutes a new raise. In some places though only the full size counts, its a matter of house rules. [/ QUOTE ] The floor is correct in places that don't understand poker. I would say in at least 50% of the rooms that allow this half bet to reopen action they actually have copied a rules from some place that says it is a full bet and they just don't realize that limit and NL are different games. |
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The floor is correct in places that don't understand poker. [/ QUOTE ] Am I the only one who thinks this oft repeated mantra by RR comes across as arrogant and condescending? |
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Re: NL re-raise rule
The floor is incorrect (though, of course, house rules obtain).
I don't know about arrogant and condescending, but RR is right. The half-bet rule applies to limit poker, not big bet poker. I think the following is from and old version of Mike Caro's rules: Suppose we have players A, B, and C in a game where the blinds are $5-10. Player A opens with a raise to $50 total chips (he matches the $10 blinds and raises by $40). Player B reraises all in for a total of $70 total chips (he calls the bet of $50 plus raises $20 more). Player C cold calls the $70. Player A can not reraise since Player B did not put in a legal raise. Player B raised by only $20 when he needed to match a raise of $40. Note that Player C could have raised if he desired, since he had not yet acted in response to the original bet. Now let us consider an example of when player A could reraise. Again we have players A, B, and C with the blinds at $5-10. Player A raises to a total of $40 chips (he matches the blind of $10 and raises by $30). Player B pushes all in with $70 (calls the $40 and raises by $30). Player C then cold calls. Player A can reraise as much as he wants because Player B has made a legal raise. Player B has matched the original raise amount of $30. |
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