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Re: NL25: Flop nuts heads up, river makes second nuts.. fold ever?
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[ QUOTE ] Why call the raise with T8o if you'r considering folding the second nuts? Do you only get your stack in when you flop TTT? Don't minraise the flop, you know that. People at NL25 are gonna call all day anyway, so raise flop properly to $3.5 or $4. I'm betting 4.50 on the turn to: A) build a pot b) price out draws Get it in on the river, you have a terrible case of "monsters under the bed" syndrome if you are putting him on exactly one hand, the nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Villain bets $7.50 bknollenberg has 15 seconds left to act bknollenberg: omgwtfbbq this may be way too sick bknollenberg calls $7.50 *** SHOW DOWN *** Villain shows [Tc Qs] a straight, King high bknollenberg mucks Villain wins the pot ($25.20) with a straight, King high bknollenberg: jfc *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $26.50 | Rake $1.30 Board: [7d 9s Js 6c Kc] Seat 1: Villain (small blind) showed [Tc Qs] and won ($25.20) with a straight, King high Seat 2: bknollenberg (big blind) mucked [Td 8c] - a straight, Jack high [/ QUOTE ] You might be the best hand-reader of all time dude. I agree, when villain bets into you on the river after that action, it is often the nuts, but there is no way you're folding that and this may not have happened if you played the hand differently. |
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Re: NL25: Flop nuts heads up, river makes second nuts.. fold ever?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why call the raise with T8o if you'r considering folding the second nuts? Do you only get your stack in when you flop TTT? Don't minraise the flop, you know that. People at NL25 are gonna call all day anyway, so raise flop properly to $3.5 or $4. I'm betting 4.50 on the turn to: A) build a pot b) price out draws Get it in on the river, you have a terrible case of "monsters under the bed" syndrome if you are putting him on exactly one hand, the nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Villain bets $7.50 bknollenberg has 15 seconds left to act bknollenberg: omgwtfbbq this may be way too sick bknollenberg calls $7.50 *** SHOW DOWN *** Villain shows [Tc Qs] a straight, King high bknollenberg mucks Villain wins the pot ($25.20) with a straight, King high bknollenberg: jfc *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $26.50 | Rake $1.30 Board: [7d 9s Js 6c Kc] Seat 1: Villain (small blind) showed [Tc Qs] and won ($25.20) with a straight, King high Seat 2: bknollenberg (big blind) mucked [Td 8c] - a straight, Jack high [/ QUOTE ] You might be the best hand-reader of all time dude. I agree, when villain bets into you on the river after that action, it is often the nuts, but there is no way you're folding that and this may not have happened if you played the hand differently. [/ QUOTE ] I guess I'm the only one that can answer the question of whether you can ever fold here, because the answer is obviously yes. I knew I was beat, given my experience with Villain. But it is indeed my own fault. So anyone think anything else different other than raising to 4-5ish on flop, pot on turn, then if it gets to the river make an easier call (and lose everything, lol)? |
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