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Old 08-28-2007, 12:57 PM
scatt_man scatt_man is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

I understand your reasoning however, with a AF so low .78 does that not indicate that he would only make this play with a stronger hand then KJ KQ ...

What am i hope to be beating here besides those 2 hands and a flush draw?
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

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The reason i raised to 5BB is because i was trying to plan my hand around commitment

He had 80 dollars starting out so i figured if i raise to 5 and he calls that leaves me with a SPR of 8... making it very hard for him to out play me

Am i incorrectly using that concept in this particular situation?

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Effective stack is 98 .. he has me covered

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Old 08-28-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

I just shove here w/ 100 bb stacks. If he has a set, reload.
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

hmmm the forum seemed pretty split down the middle on this one.... I guess its a 0ev situation [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

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The reason i raised to 5BB is because i was trying to plan my hand around commitment

He had 80 dollars starting out so i figured if i raise to 5 and he calls that leaves me with a SPR of 8... making it very hard for him to out play me

Am i incorrectly using that concept in this particular situation?

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Effective stack is 98 .. he has me covered

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ahhh woops.. sorry effective stack is 80 i have 98 ... my bad [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

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hmmm the forum seemed pretty split down the middle on this one.... I guess its a 0ev situation [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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ya guess so..... however, if we took a look at his WSD% that might help us make a better choice in this particular situation

since it is fairly 0ev we could fold if it seems he just shows down winners over a fairly good sample size and if he shows down some medeoker holdings then we could push
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

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I understand your reasoning however, with a AF so low .78 does that not indicate that he would only make this play with a stronger hand then KJ KQ ...

What am i hope to be beating here besides those 2 hands and a flush draw?

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you don't really need to beat more than that... i even only gave him 2 naked flush draws

Board: Kh 2h 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.320% 47.64% 08.68% 16506 3009.00 { AdKs }
Hand 1: 43.680% 35.00% 08.68% 12126 3009.00 { 66, 22, AKs, AhQh, AhJh, KJs+, K6s, K2s, 7h6h, 6h5h, AKo, KJo+ }
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

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The reason i raised to 5BB is because i was trying to plan my hand around commitment

He had 80 dollars starting out so i figured if i raise to 5 and he calls that leaves me with a SPR of 8... making it very hard for him to out play me

Am i incorrectly using that concept in this particular situation?

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Effective stack is 98 .. he has me covered

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ahhh woops.. sorry effective stack is 80 i have 98 ... my bad [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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With $80 stacks, just push.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Lost all confidence in AK

How deep would anyone have to be to consider folding this?
Obv 80BB and already commiting 5% of the stack preflop your not often gonna get away when you hit your tp.
But if his AF is that low his usually not doing this with a
flush draw, and then our eq against his range drops alot.
Now we have left KJ(maybe),KQ,AK and sets. Is it wrong to call the flop and see the turn? As I dont see him double barreling KJ,KQ very often.
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