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AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
he runs 28/23/4 over 125 hands and my notes say that he is very aggro preflop from what I've seen.
What is your plan when missing the flop on a board like this? On other types of boards? Obviously a fold is standard, but how often are you mixing it up? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $370.00 BB: $455.00 UTG: $751.60 MP: $242.00 CO: $755.00 Hero (BTN): $459.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $44.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00 Flop: ($90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $64.00</font>, |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
Pre-flop, against a villian with a huge 3-bet range in a Butt/BB situation I think it goes..
fold>4-bet>>>call Your almost certainly ahead of his range, but if you just call you've lost iniative and are missing most flops. |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
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he runs 28/23/4 over 125 hands and my notes say that he is very aggro preflop from what I've seen. What is your plan when missing the flop on a board like this? On other types of boards? Obviously a fold is standard, but how often are you mixing it up? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $370.00 BB: $455.00 UTG: $751.60 MP: $242.00 CO: $755.00 Hero (BTN): $459.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $44.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00 Flop: ($90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets $64.00</font>, [/ QUOTE ] I think this is a great spot to bluff re-raise. Having a K here looks very believable, it looks like you're defending against a possible flushdraw. He also won't try to push you off a weaker hand like a K with weak kicker as he will think it would look like he is pushing with a draw. |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
having a K here actually does not look believable at all, raising here is repping a draw or set (i.e. almost all draws)
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
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having a K here actually does not look believable at all, raising here is repping a draw or set (i.e. almost all draws) [/ QUOTE ] Any K is likely ahead on a flop like this but is very vulnerable because of the flush draw. I think most people realize this and elect to re-raise with their pair. I think this applies much to the middle-stakes games where people generally are good at (over-) defending and value betting made hands. |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
A king isn't "very vulnerable" just because there are 2 cards of the same suit on the flop HU in a 3 bet pot. Your not repping KQ- with a raise here. I agree with ipokeder this is a more common line to take with a set or a draw.
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
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A king isn't "very vulnerable" just because there are 2 cards of the same suit on the flop HU in a 3 bet pot. Your not repping KQ- with a raise here. I agree with ipokeder this is a more common line to take with a set or a draw. [/ QUOTE ] I should have used the phrase "seems very vulnerable" as that is what I meant. I don't think it is a common line at these stakes to re-raise with a flush draw. Competent players may push to add some fold equity and fishy players may do it because they feel like gambling but most people just check/calls with their draws. I do think it is a more common line for people to re-raise with a K with decent to good kicker on a flop like this. |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
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[ QUOTE ] A king isn't "very vulnerable" just because there are 2 cards of the same suit on the flop HU in a 3 bet pot. Your not repping KQ- with a raise here. I agree with ipokeder this is a more common line to take with a set or a draw. [/ QUOTE ] I should have used the phrase "seems very vulnerable" as that is what I meant. I don't think it is a common line at these stakes to re-raise with a flush draw. Competent players may push to add some fold equity and fishy players may do it because they feel like gambling but most people just check/calls with their draws. I do think it is a more common line for people to re-raise with a K with decent to good kicker on a flop like this. [/ QUOTE ] i think it's ridiculously common and standard to throw in a raise with a draw here. like others have said, raising is pretty much repping only sets and draws. i'd just pitch it, and probably would have 4bet pf if i wanted to do anything other than fold to his 3bet |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
wtf? 4-betting here IMO is total spew. against an overaggro guy like this he's probably shoving with a massive range that i can't call.
i think calling in position and going all in when i flop a pair is much better. |
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Re: AQ misses the flop against a looser preflop RRer
wtf? If you think he's shoving such a "massive range" then AQ is ahead and you can/should call after 4 betting. I doubt he's really that wild though.
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