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Re: Difficult preflop spot
read on mossyhorn?
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
The "call a standard raise, shove over a 3bet" move almost always screams "I have a mid pair up to JJ at best".
Everyone else in the hand can pretty much play perfectly as a result. For that reason I'd prefer a call, although I think it's better to 3bet yourself in the first place. |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
i mean i'd be all for shoving if the squeezer was a total idiot but vs most i think calling is best cause when stacks go in you will basically never be a favorite.
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
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[ QUOTE ] fold > shove > call? [/ QUOTE ] just in terms of preflop... i think call > fold > shove [/ QUOTE ] I like call>shove>fold more. |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
I think it is very unlikely that someone tries a squeeze play against 3 players with the original raiser UTG. So I would put him on a strong range TT+/AK maybe AQs and if he is prepared to call your shove with this range you will be 45/55 small underdog, which is much better than I thought. Even against KK+/AK you’re still only a 40/60 underdog. With all the money that is already in the pott it is probably best to shove.
Shove > call > fold |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
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The "call a standard raise, shove over a 3bet" move almost always screams "I have a mid pair up to JJ at best". Everyone else in the hand can pretty much play perfectly as a result. For that reason I'd prefer a call, although I think it's better to 3bet yourself in the first place. [/ QUOTE ] the "call a standard raise, overcall a standard reraise" move almost always screams "I have a mid pair up to JJ at best" |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
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No real history with wynn but basically i just have to be ahead of him.... [/ QUOTE ] are u saying ur surely ahead of the of the UTG opener? |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
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[ QUOTE ] The "call a standard raise, shove over a 3bet" move almost always screams "I have a mid pair up to JJ at best". Everyone else in the hand can pretty much play perfectly as a result. For that reason I'd prefer a call, although I think it's better to 3bet yourself in the first place. [/ QUOTE ] the "call a standard raise, overcall a standard reraise" move almost always screams "I have a mid pair up to JJ at best" [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but is QQ+ not going to make a continuation bet on a board of 5 8 J against two callers? Given the size of the pot and stacks you're going to be called all-in regardless of how much it screams that you've probably hit a set based on your preflop call. |
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
I don't think he'll mind too much if we call an additional 13% of effective stacks to chase a set
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Re: Difficult preflop spot
Another vote for call > shove > fold
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