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Old 08-16-2007, 09:48 AM
xeanatic xeanatic is offline
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Default NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

Villian is pretty decent runs around 16/12/2
what's the best line to take here? I feel weak here because I just called.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $70.70
BB: $46.70
UTG: $49.00
MP: $36.25
CO: $54.25
Hero (BTN): $66.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $6.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7.00</font>

Pot Size: $19.50
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

Ask yourself why you're calling this. DO you think you're behind? If so, you need to fold - how many outs do you have to improve. If you're ahead, you need to protect your hand for the same reason. Are you behind? A 16% VPIP does not encessarily put him on a pocket pair. What's his CB%? I might fold this if it was zero and I had a huge sample of hands on him - otherwise this is a definite raise for me.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

you would only raise to prevent him from sucking out with AK 25% of the time. With your stack size I may start leaning towards calling instead of pushing.

If you push with hands like this in these spots its really high variance and when called ur generally [censored]. So yeah I think calling&gt;raising&gt;folding.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

Ok so I called and the turn is a brick (3h) and SB bets out $15

what's my action here?
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

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With your stack size I may start leaning towards calling instead of pushing.

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Don't like this line at all. You planning on calling him down from here and folding if he bets big? Seems very weak
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

Is villain the type of player to raise in the SB because he thinks you're stealing on the button? If so, his range just opened up a lot.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

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Ok so I called and the turn is a brick (3h) and SB bets out $15

what's my action here?

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IMO now you fold

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With your stack size I may start leaning towards calling instead of pushing.

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Don't like this line at all. You planning on calling him down from here and folding if he bets big? Seems very weak

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Villains future actions and bet sizing reveal us information about his hand.


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Is villain the type of player to raise in the SB because he thinks you're stealing on the button? If so, his range just opened up a lot.

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yeah a lot of depends on how much have u been stealing lately and how has he responded :/
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 QQ gets 3bet PF

Pushing is moronic since we beat JJ from calling range and lose against QQ+(,TT). AsKs we flip. Call and make the hard decision on turn. I think I fold this against a tighter player like this one.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:45 PM
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i think i prefer re raising pre here. You make what looks like a standard button raise and he pops back. I just go ahead and re raise him here. if he pushes back then IMO he has A/K+. but here he may have any PP etc.
on the flop i raise it.his bet is 7into 12 doesnt scream strong to me. plenty of draws for him to be scared of if he has KK,AA so i wouild assume he would bet harder.
unless he sees this line and bets weak wanting a raise....?
re raise pre!
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