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25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Heres another hand.
Is it possible to think your ahead on the turn so u can extract the maximum? (play for stacks) (still no stats villain due to FTP update) Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Button ($26.30) Hero ($33.50) BB ($25) UTG ($35.55) MP ($20.40) CO ($13.65) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, BB calls $0.50. Flop: ($1.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75. Turn: ($3.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9.25</font>, Hero calls $4.75. River: ($20.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.25</font>, Hero calls $3.25. Final Pot: $26.60 |
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
i like preflop raise. you are beating a wide variety of BB hands. i do bet the flop b/c you are equally unlikely to have a Q. a lead here is is really deceptive. also c raising the min is so weak! ten with his 3 bet i shove on top. i dont understand his tiny bet on the river or your check call. if he hit a 2 outer i think you are jsut beat
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Preflop: I like a raise here but I'd go higher. You're definitely a favorite over a random BB hand, so try and get some more in there.
Flop: This would have been a great spot for check-raise. Calling is weak here unless you are setting up for something else, which you aren't based on later play. Turn: Minraise is weak. I would have lead out with a bet as well. River: You've failed to lead out on flop and turn, but that's over with - now you need to bet for value. You've shown nothing but weakness as well, and villain’s bet is very tiny -so why just a call here? |
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Op, the best line when you flop a monster is to do what you always do, bet the flop. I think your line with the sneaky cmr on the turn screams you have a Q, and more importantly, it does very very little to get money into the pot. Villain is nowhere near being comitted when you spring your "trap". Bet $1.3 on the flop, bet $3.5 on the turn and hope he doesn´t believe you.
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Stab: why did you play the hand this way? Trying to be tricky? The trickiest thing you can do is lead that flop and go from there.
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Thx for the comments. I guess I'm abit "shellshocked" or w/e u call it from a 2week long downswing / bad luck streak where i've always been behind.
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
Slow playing and trying to get tricky is just inviting your opponents to draw out on you thus creating what seems like a streak of bad luck.
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
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Preflop: I like a raise here but I'd go higher. You're definitely a favorite over a random BB hand, so try and get some more in there. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this, by raising more you are: 1. Increasing the number of times your SB steal has to be successful to be profitable. Suppose you always raised to 4.5 BB to win 1 BB. Breakeven for the street means he folds 77%. Raising 3BB here means breakeven is 66%. Obviously this isn't the only street, but if you can get the street to pay for itself, why not do it? Maybe this isn't a pure steal, but most of your SB raises will be, (right?) so make this look the same. 2. Not changing his fold % much. He's playing almost the same hands he would to any raise anyway, whether 3BB or 4.5. 3. Building a pot OOP. In the SB I'm definitely looking to make this a small pot that I take down now or on the flop with a cbet. The further in we go the bigger his positional advantage is. 4. Putting yourself in a position where you can't call a small raise with good implied odds. |
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Re: 25NL - Trip queens facing a turn bet/reraise
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Preflop: I like a raise here but I'd go higher. You're definitely a favorite over a random BB hand, so try and get some more in there. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree with this, by raising more you are: 1. Increasing the number of times your SB steal has to be successful to be profitable. Suppose you always raised to 4.5 BB to win 1 BB. Breakeven for the street means he folds 77%. Raising 3BB here means breakeven is 66%. Obviously this isn't the only street, but if you can get the street to pay for itself, why not do it? Maybe this isn't a pure steal, but most of your SB raises will be, (right?) so make this look the same. 2. Not changing his fold % much. He's playing almost the same hands he would to any raise anyway, whether 3BB or 4.5. 3. Building a pot OOP. In the SB I'm definitely looking to make this a small pot that I take down now or on the flop with a cbet. The further in we go the bigger his positional advantage is. 4. Putting yourself in a position where you can't call a small raise with good implied odds. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm, excellent post. I'm going to rethink this. Edit: I'm not being sarcastic. |
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