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I love my hand but.... nl200
Villian is a solid player, and prolly view me as well.
His range for calling my utg raise is most likely JJ-/AQ/AK (he doesnt 3b AK vs utg raise). He doesnt raise cbet a lot neither, only 7% over a very large sample. So, i think everytime he calls a push i'm behind and he isnt bluff a lot here, specially against an utg cbet. Knowing that, what are we going to do? Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $1/$2 Blinds 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $203.95 Hero (BB): $209.55 UTG: $243.00 CO: $195.75 BTN: $0.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt K Q (5 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, BTN calls $6.00, SB folds Flop: ($16) K 4 T (2 Players) BTN checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, Hero? |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
I'd make it 99 and call a push....worst hand you want to see is AdJd....
But I pretty much get this is all day everyday ! |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
I'd just call, you're not folding out better by 3betting.
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
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I'd make it 99 and call a push....worst hand you want to see is KK .... But I pretty much get this is all day everyday ! [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
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I'd just call, you're not folding out better by 3betting. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe not, but even if we assume he has {KK+,AKs,KQs,AKo,KQo} we're still ahead. So we'd want to get it in as soon as possible before another diamond kills our action. |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
normally with this kind of hand it's better to rely on our draw as a bonus and to play our hand a little slower - if we get it all in, we're often drawing to nine outs and throw away the showdown value of top pair.
given the check/raise you're facing, i might be more tempted to get it in now, if he can do this with draws a lot. our holding the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] makes this less likely.... ...so i'd probably call |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
It seems that the hand converted messed up the HH. (it says you are BB and still act first pf, BTN act first on the flop...?)
You are only 100bb deep, I guess I would play this hand for stacks (metagame makes up for the loss if you're behind and both regulars). You don't beat many hands if villain is as solid as you say (though I doubt his calling range is JJ+, he definitely plays 77+ in the CO, but that doesn't really matter here. I just think you narrow villain's range down too much because you are scared of him), but you cannot fold here with TPGK+2nd nut flush draw, anyway. If you believe you are behind, call flop and reevaluate turn. On a diamond turn : You don't want him to draw cheaply if he has the Ad, but suddenly taking the lead here seems very suspicious after Villain's flop raise. This is a c/c turn (c/r AI if you feel confident villain has trips and would still call regardless the flush got there), c/r AI river on a non diamond, c/c river diamond On a blank turn: I like a c/c if you expect villain to let you see a free showdown(and you still have a good hand anyway), otherwise c/f (What do you guys think of taking the lead on a diamond turn? Is it that bad here? The more I think about it, the more it seems that checking the turn makes it harder to extract the maximum in this hand) Tell us what you did on the flop and what card came on the turn, if you didn't get it in on the flop. |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
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Maybe not, but even if we assume he has {KK+,AKs,KQs,AKo,KQo} we're still ahead. So we'd want to get it in as soon as possible before another diamond kills our action. [/ QUOTE ] If villain has KK we're way behind and don't want to go broke. If he has AA we have close to 0 fold equity, playing a coinflip. If he has AK this is still a coinflip. If he has the same hand as us, this is the only spot I see playing for stacks on the flop really profitable, as you have good FE (thus avoiding a split)+ draw. Playing for stacks on the flop against this opponent is close to being 0 EV IMO, and is a very high variance play. Get ready for it. |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
You may be right, but I think that makes the hand the easiest to play. This is probably not the right reason to shove here, but I'd rather take a coinflip on the flop here instead of giving him to opportunity to take the hand away from us on a later street.
btw. We are first to act in the hand, so leading or c/r is going t be difficult. |
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Re: I love my hand but.... nl200
From your description of villain he has AK or a set when he ch/r your cbet. I doubt he's folding either on this drawy board, so you have close to 0 FE. Call and reevaluate on turn, fold non diamond turns to sizeable bets.
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