2/4 Awkward spot with JJ

[Renton]

villain is theminion, a solid tagg who threebets reasonably light.

Notice its 8 handed. FR folks couldn't handle this.


Table 'Nunki V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: villAIN ($418.30 in chips)
Seat 3: capaneo ($491.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Any2Cards ($126.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Tully49 ($392 in chips)
Seat 6: 1thekid ($392 in chips)
Seat 7: rent ($576 in chips)
Seat 8: bluexcr ($368 in chips)
Seat 9: blocktrader9 ($262.60 in chips)
Any2Cards: posts small blind $2
Tully49: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rent [Jh Js]

1thekid: folds
rent: raises $12 to $16
bluexcr: folds
blocktrader9: folds
villAIN: raises $36 to $52
capaneo: folds
Any2Cards: folds
Tully49: folds
rent: calls $36

*** FLOP *** [4c 4s 2s]

rent: checks
villAIN: bets $68
rent:

[JrJordan]

I c/r this flop to 180 with the intent of calling a push. If he calls, then I value push almost every turn.

Villain's 3-betting range includes lots of lower PP's that will call a c/r here due to the ragged board and the possibility that you're semi-bluffing spades.

[Renton]

well, to clarify, and this gets back to it being full ring and not shorthanded:

He's range preflop is reasonably light for full ring, probably something like AQ+ TT+. Hence, i can't imagine stacking off here is a profitable play.

[JrJordan]

My bad, I was thinking a range closer to 77+. You could make an argument for c/r'ing to 160 with it being the last money you put in. If he calls with a lower PP he's going to check it down, a bigger one will make a value bet some time down the road. I think I like this option the best.

[praios]

just call and see what he is doing next

[Renton]

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just call and see what he is doing next

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please explain.

What is your turn plan?