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View Poll Results: % of time an EP/MP limp/reraise PF is AA/KK? | |||
> 90% | 3 | 37.50% | |
75-90% | 3 | 37.50% | |
50-75% | 1 | 12.50% | |
20-50% | 0 | 0% | |
< 20% | 1 | 12.50% | |
Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll |
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Flatter payout in MTT\'s
This topic has been floated on another board I frequent that does not get the amount of traffic as 2+2. I was hoping to get more input so I am posting this here. What is the general feeling of creating a flatter payout in MTT play. I created a payout structure based on last night's 25.00 + 2.50 25K gaurantee on PS. There were 1431 entries for a total prize pool of $35,775. The original prize distibution is on PS for all to see. Here's an alternative:
1 1431.00 0.04 2 1395.23 0.039 3 1359.45 0.038 4 1323.68 0.037 5 1287.90 0.036 6 1252.13 0.035 7 1216.35 0.034 8 1180.58 0.033 9 1144.80 0.032 10 1037.48 0.029 11 1001.70 0.028 12 965.93 0.027 13 930.15 0.026 14 822.83 0.023 15 787.05 0.022 16 751.28 0.021 17 715.50 0.02 18 679.73 0.019 19 554.51 0.0155 20 518.74 0.0145 21 482.96 0.0135 22 447.19 0.0125 23 436.46 0.0122 24 425.72 0.0119 25 414.99 0.0116 26 404.26 0.0113 27 357.75 0.01 28 327.34 0.00915 29 327.34 0.00915 30 327.34 0.00915 31 327.34 0.00915 32 327.34 0.00915 33 327.34 0.00915 34 327.34 0.00915 35 327.34 0.00915 36 327.34 0.00915 37 327.34 0.00915 38 300.51 0.0084 39 300.51 0.0084 40 300.51 0.0084 41 300.51 0.0084 42 300.51 0.0084 43 300.51 0.0084 44 300.51 0.0084 45 300.51 0.0084 46 279.05 0.0078 47 279.05 0.0078 48 279.05 0.0078 49 279.05 0.0078 50 279.05 0.0078 51 279.05 0.0078 52 279.05 0.0078 53 279.05 0.0078 54 279.05 0.0078 55 250.43 0.007 56 250.43 0.007 57 250.43 0.007 58 250.43 0.007 59 250.43 0.007 60 250.43 0.007 61 250.43 0.007 62 250.43 0.007 63 250.43 0.007 64 223.00 0.006233 65 223.00 0.006233 66 223.00 0.006233 67 223.00 0.006233 68 223.00 0.006233 69 223.00 0.006233 70 223.00 0.006233 71 223.00 0.006233 72 223.00 0.006233 35775 1 Some interesting observations: Only 5% of all player's get paid v. 12%. First place is substantially less 1431 v. 7616. 72nd place pays more than 10th 223 v 214. 10th makes substantially more than 10th 1,037 v 214. |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
Pah, variance is what makes it fun!
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
terrible... most of your $ev is BECAUSE of the steep structure rewarding high finishes... and the many prizes is what keeps the fish playing (along with the high possible payday)
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
Seriously, you want first to make only $400 more than 10th? That sounds unbearably lame.
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
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Pah, variance is what makes it fun! [/ QUOTE ] I thought it was making money! I really think that only about 5% of all player's benefit from the top heavy payout structure. 95% of player's would benefit from a flatter payout. I have no evidence of this other than just browsing OTR and observing the very low percentage of player's that actually show a profit playing MTT's. I do know that player's such as aBOVebeLOW should not want a structure like this. |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
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Seriously, you want first to make only $400 more than 10th? That sounds unbearably lame. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not really advocating this, I'm just interested in argument's either for or against it. |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
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terrible... most of your $ev is BECAUSE of the steep structure rewarding high finishes... and the many prizes is what keeps the fish playing (along with the high possible payday) [/ QUOTE ] The current structure does not reward high finishes unless you only consider 1-3 to be a high finish. Finishing 10th of 1400 entries seems high to me. I have finished deep in many tournements and I've won a few and I've finished outside the real money ALOT. I can say for sure that a flip of a coin either going your way at a key time or not going your way consistantly at key times is the difference between making alot of money or breaking even. |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
If the majority of people preferred such a flat payout then tournaments would be chopped at a full final table way more often.
The bottom line is that if tournaments didn't have a steep payout they'd be booooooring. Who wants to make the final table and not care about winning because the winner only gets a few bucks more than 4th? |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
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The bottom line is that if tournaments didn't have a steep payout they'd be booooooring. Who wants to make the final table and not care about winning because the winner only gets a few bucks more than 4th? [/ QUOTE ] I agree it is much more exciting at a chance to win 7600 than 1400 -- certainly a negative. |
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Re: Flatter payout in MTT\'s
Id rather pay a 20/180 than that MTT
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