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22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
First hand in a $22 on FTP. This happened this morning.
I have 99 and raise three times the big blind from the button. The SB pushes. I...? |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
call.
It's such a ridiculous play that you are significantly ahead of his range imo. |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
If he has at least two overcards here close to 100% of the time do you still call this early in the tournament.
Say he is a player who plays AA and KK like this never, 10-QQ 25% of the time, and two overs the other 75%. Then it is a clear fold, yes? |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
There's definitely always going to be a chance that these first hand shovers will have ATC or more precisely at least one card below your 9 is in a significant part of their range to where you have to include it.
It's the lower end of what I'd call with but I would call. |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
Not first hand but found it somewhat relevant.
PokerStars Game #11033655262: Tournament #55954574, $20+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/20 - 03:42:43 (ET) Table '55954574 2' 2-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: RyPac13 (1375 in chips) Seat 2: STROKEHORSE (1625 in chips) RyPac13: posts small blind 10 STROKEHORSE: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to RyPac13 [Ad Jh] RyPac13: raises 40 to 60 STROKEHORSE: raises 1565 to 1625 and is all-in RyPac13: calls 1315 and is all-in *** FLOP *** [8d 2s Kh] *** TURN *** [8d 2s Kh] [Kd] *** RIVER *** [8d 2s Kh Kd] [2d] *** SHOW DOWN *** STROKEHORSE: shows [2h Qd] (a full house, Deuces full of Kings) RyPac13: shows [Ad Jh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces) STROKEHORSE collected 2750 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2750 | Rake 0 Board [8d 2s Kh Kd 2d] Seat 1: RyPac13 (button) (small blind) showed [Ad Jh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces Seat 2: STROKEHORSE (big blind) showed [2h Qd] and won (2750) with a full house, Deuces full of Kings |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
easy fold imho.
The best thing u can get is a coinflip against AQ or something. I cant see him pushing with something u have dominated... |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
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easy fold imho. The best thing u can get is a coinflip against AQ or something. I cant see him pushing with something u have dominated... [/ QUOTE ] this is ridiculous. your argument is assuming that everyone plays optimally. at the 22 dollar level you are going to see some crazy hands in this spot. chicagory's was a 55, but its a good example. if he's dumb enough to try to lose as much value as possible with 1010+ then whatever. you are going to see Ax/lower pair/atc way more often than a big pair. 99 is on the lower end of my calling range (88+/AQ+), but without a read I think folding is terrible. |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
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99 is on the lower end of my calling range (88+/AQ+), but without a read I think folding is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] a fold here without reads is terrible |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
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[ QUOTE ] easy fold imho. The best thing u can get is a coinflip against AQ or something. I cant see him pushing with something u have dominated... [/ QUOTE ] this is ridiculous. your argument is assuming that everyone plays optimally. at the 22 dollar level you are going to see some crazy hands in this spot. chicagory's was a 55, but its a good example. if he's dumb enough to try to lose as much value as possible with 1010+ then whatever. you are going to see Ax/lower pair/atc way more often than a big pair. 99 is on the lower end of my calling range (88+/AQ+), but without a read I think folding is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Any pair under 88 and you start coinflipping the vast majority of starting hands. |
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Re: 22 NLTRN - 99 first hand
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[ QUOTE ] 99 is on the lower end of my calling range (88+/AQ+), but without a read I think folding is terrible. [/ QUOTE ] a fold here without reads is terrible [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. I think it's a call, but a fold here isn't terrible IMO. |
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