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Old 07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
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hello, i am a good flop. Oh you have QQ? Nice to meet you, how about we raise?
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:16 PM
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lol @ raising flop.
call flop maybe call turn maybe call river. it depends.

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where do u play i need to put some money on that site
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:33 PM
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[new account, this will be a GREAT first post]

This thread is hilarious. Thanks for a good laugh HiroYuy & friends (e.g poker12).
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:16 PM
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wtf is this thread
i didnt read all the posts, but, i dont fold in this spot, unless the guy is the nittiest of nits
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:27 PM
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lol @ raising flop.
call flop maybe call turn maybe call river. it depends.

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where do u play i need to put some money on that site

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I play on Stars
It is very obvious villain either a worse hand we are crushing, or a better hand that is crushing us, with AK w/ 6 outs being the exception to the rule. I dont see any reason to raise against this range.
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:55 PM
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Wow! Has MSNL really gotten this bad?

Obv, shove flop for information. We gotsta get him to fold out the hands we beat and get the money in against the hands that beat us. Gogogogogo
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:59 PM
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This should not be considered a WA/WB situation where you only get called by better hands. People should stop viewing this hand like that.

Also, is there no hand that you would hold in OP's spot where you would raise the flop?
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:05 PM
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push turn
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:29 PM
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This should not be considered a WA/WB situation where you only get called by better hands. People should stop viewing this hand like that.

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What do you think an unkown's calling range is for a flop push? I would guess most decent 2/5 players fold JJ in this spot with no history, or am I wrong?

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Also, is there no hand that you would hold in OP's spot where you would raise the flop?

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Come to think of it, I'm virtually never raising the flop here (but maybe that's a leak).
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:40 PM
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No need to shove. $270 seems more then adequate. And as I have said earlier in the thread, yes I would call a shove. I think we can get action from a ton of mid PP's and even biggums (AK,AQs) every now and then.

Maybe it is a leak of yours if you won't bet any hand here but will allow your opponent to bet you off yours...
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