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Old 07-14-2007, 10:40 AM
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Opponent is jager244 reg at $200NL taggish
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Smackebonk: $211.40
Jager244: $216.45
Thalmus: $101.20
goos43: $124.15
AbacabDonkey: $205.15
Hero: $529.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
Thalmus folds, goos43 calls $2.00, AbacabDonkey folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, Smackebonk folds, Jager244 calls $6.00, goos43 calls $6.00

Flop: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Jager244 checks, goos43 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Jager244 raises to $50.00</font>, goos43 folds, Hero calls $34.00

Turn: ($125) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Jager244 bets all-in for $158.45</font>, [i]

Pot Size: $283.45 ($3 Rake)


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Old 07-14-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: interesting hand vs reg

If he is tricky i dont mind a call cuz his range is way polarized
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: interesting hand vs reg

I don't play PS so I don't know this player. But, the flop is either a fold or push. I prefer a fold.

The turn is a fold.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: interesting hand vs reg

You're definitely beat on turn. And as mentioned ^^^ why do you call on flop? I agree with Spy Dog - push or fold on flop with this being a fold I think.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: interesting hand vs reg

if he is tagisch I cant see him having a worse hand on the flop.

Turn is a pretty easy fold I think
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: interesting hand vs reg

yeah but what kind of hands are in his range when he does this. When i was tanking i kept thinking some crap like
AQd etc etc and he was just using the board to enhance his hand
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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This isn't a hand that you want to see another card, so the flop is fold or push.

As far as his range goes, obviously a combo draw is in his range as well as sets and 2 pairs or a flopped straight. You are just behind his range too often, and he usually has a ton of outs if you are ahead.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:47 PM
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Turn is an easy fold,

I can see alot of combo draws playing the flop the way he did, so I don't really mind the call and re-evaluating on the turn.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:48 PM
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I thought this hand over for a while, and I came to the conclusion I probably shove the flop. It doesn't make sense for him to CR a made hand here. This is not a flop a lot of people will screw around on, especially in a 3-way pot. He can not expect you to c-bet automatically and he's going to hate seeing this checked through, since about half the deck kills his action. He also shuts out the (fishy?) limper by CRing.

Also, he nearly never has JJ or KK given preflop, only one combo of 99, I don't think he calls with K9 preflop OOP. That leaves KJ, QT and combo draws. I'm willing to flip with that range.

As played I fold turn. Lots of tens he could have.

Edit: note that I probably would've folded the flop in the heat of the moment, but I can't convince myself a fold is right when I think it through.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:29 PM
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i would probably shove the flop but calling/re-eval turn is ok. that card makes too many hands so i fold the turn with no reads. however since he is a reg, ur hand looks a lot like AK/AA. if he thinks you can't fold AK/AA then I would fold but if he knows you're good I can't see what hand he's trying to get value from by shoving. if you have a lot of history with him and he knows that you're a good thinking player i think i could find a call on the turn.
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