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$60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
UG (59/15) MP1 (20/6), about 50 hands for each
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com SB (t2530) Hero (t1275) UTG (t1700) MP1 (t2585) MP2 (t2460) CO (t1245) Button (t1705) Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]. UTG calls t150, MP1 calls t150, 4 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (t525) K[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]](3 players)</font> Hero? |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
Check/raise all-in or push, depending on your opponents.
If it gets checked round, I think I'm pushing any turn card. |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
This is actually an interesting spot. I'd autoshove if I had any other outs besides the fd. I think you could argue a shove because some Ax may fold and you should get a K to always fold in a 60 especially if MP1 is decent. I don't think it's bad either way.
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
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Check/raise all-in or push, depending on the players. [/ QUOTE ] c/r all in? You eliminate any FE you may have by letting them get any money in the pot. We are always behind if they call so we obviously don't want a call. |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
Well, I see your point but if you have a guy limping into most pots and betting these sort of flops regardless of his hand then check/raise all-in seems like a good play.
Does a weak ace really fold to a shove that's twice the size of the pot anyway? What fold equity is there? |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
Giving up puts you at about 9%. Stealing is 12.6% and winning is 19.6%. So you have to pick it up just under 40%* of the time to make it +EV. There are other reasons to push though (getting called in two spots for example). Of course checking might get you a free card but the LP player bets when checked to a very big % of the time as you know.
* - Assuming you have 35% equity when called. |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
Shillx is beyond awesome. Anyways, I think we pick it up for sure more than 40%.
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
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Shillx is beyond awesome. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
SB (t2530) Hero (t1275) UTG (t1700) MP1 (t2585) MP2 (t2460) CO (t1245) Button (t1705) Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]. UTG calls t150, MP1 calls t150,4 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (t525) K[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] (3 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG bets t150</font>, MP1 calls t150, Hero raises to t1125</font> This is how the flop went. I figured pushing the flop would never fold and ace so I might as well check and see what happened. Once I saw the min bet and call it looked like a pretty easy steal, and if called I got a little extra overlay to hit my flush. |
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Re: $60 L5 - flopped draw from bb and i need chips real bad
^^ But doesn't that line basically say "I have a flush draw"? What legitimate, made, c/r AI, hand checks this flop? I can't think of one.
I'd be willing to call you very loose (and frequently do make this call) - especially with the extra chips in the pot. |
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