damn min-raises

[Greg29]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $98
BB: $56.75
UTG: $99.65
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $108</font>
CO: $97.64
BTN: $109.55

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($9.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $12</font>

Pot Size: $27.50


What is your usual line against this play out of position ? I sometimes 3-bet and sometimes call the flop/lead the turn, but I often have to give up the hand when I meet resistance. How do you proceed ?

[wrkingtobegreat]

Call this. Check the turn, evaluate from there. Min raises sometimes are a way for players to assure that they get more money in the pot but they dont want to blow you out of the hand when they know they're probably ahead. I would fold to a big turn bet, but bet the river with a turn check.

[Kilillan]

call and lead on a non-heart?

[VPIP100]

I dont agree wrkingtobegreat, I think this is usually a flushdraw/Jx to find out where they stand. Ill just repop this to 30 and fold to a shove unless I know villain is capable of shoving lone flushdraws, or else your toast.

[Panthro]

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call and lead on a non-heart?

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I use this line often.

[VPIP100]

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call and lead on a non-heart?

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Care to explain this line is better than 3-bet flop/fold to a shove?

[Greg29]

When I 3-bet, do I HAVE to call a push since the FD is a major part of an unknown range ? Do you sometimes fold even after investing a big part of your stack ?

[Kilillan]

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call and lead on a non-heart?

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Care to explain this line is better than 3-bet flop/fold to a shove?

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Because lots of players are very capable of shoving a flush draw or straight draw. And I very much dislike bloating the pot OOP with one pair.
Especially if he flat calls and an overcard+ flush card hits.

[carnivalhobo]

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call and lead on a non-heart?

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Care to explain this line is better than 3-bet flop/fold to a shove?

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when he shoves a draw and you fold tptk you lose about 1billion sklansky bucks, or when he puts you on a draw and shoves a worse tp hand.

[yad]

you can comfortably felt this in this spot. this is so often a worse jack, and idiots will felt it with you here. i think best line is usually to 3bet and call a shove, or 3bet and shove turn if he just calls.