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unclear?
Pokerroom .5/1, 5-handed. I'm in the SB holding 10 10 and Villain has only been sitting in a couple rounds and hasn't so far done anything to attract my attention.
Pre-flop it's folded to me, I raise, Villain calls. Flop: K K 2 rainbow Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero 3 bets .. .. with the intention of folding to a flop call turn raise and strongly tempted to call down a flop 4-bet. Is OK? |
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Re: unclear?
I dont know if i would have 3bet the flop here.
I'd wait for the river and if the river is below your T i might bet again otherwise i'd call down. |
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Re: unclear?
3betting the flop is pretty bad. he'll either fold his A2 or 55 or he will punish you (probably on the turn) with a K.
i would call and re-evaluate the turn. |
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Re: unclear?
Does this mean we donk turn cards less than 10 but not a 2?
If so, I think I like it, but I can definitely agree that 3-betting this flop is probably not the best line to take. What do we do if a J hits? An A? |
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Re: unclear?
Blind wars often feature wanton penis waving, so I'm not too thrilled with many lines that involve folding as the pot starts to get large.
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Re: unclear?
Thanks for the responses. So I can be clear about the basic principles:
Tyler, one of my concerns in the hand was not to give a hand like A2 any free cards. Is it that the pot is not big enough to worry about this? Wookie, you are saying that you don't like the 3-bet because inflating the pot here makes it too difficult to fold to further aggression? |
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Re: unclear?
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Tyler, one of my concerns in the hand was not to give a hand like A2 any free cards. Is it that the pot is not big enough to worry about this? [/ QUOTE ] He's drawing to 3 outs (let's disregard the 2's as you have the remaining T's also. So that "equals out"). The more you raise, the less of a mistake he makes by calling. A2 is not a hand you should worry about. |
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Re: unclear?
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He's drawing to 3 outs (let's disregard the 2's as you have the remaining T's also. So that "equals out"). [/ QUOTE ] Something tells me that this isn't working ... The problem is that, typically, when another 2 comes, a T does not come on the same card. A2 is drawing to 5 outs (slightly less, because we have a redraw, of course, but not reduced by 2 outs; however, he also has a runner-runner draw to quad K's). To see that stove the equity of A2 vs TT on that board and then compare that equity to the equity of a pure 5-outer and the equity of a pure 3-outer. |
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Re: unclear?
I'm probably calling down after the flop raise. I'm getting to the showdown, and I don't think any card really seems particularly scary that would make me want to fold -- possibly a 2 only.
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Re: unclear?
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[ QUOTE ] He's drawing to 3 outs (let's disregard the 2's as you have the remaining T's also. So that "equals out"). [/ QUOTE ] Something tells me that this isn't working ... The problem is that, typically, when another 2 comes, a T does not come on the same card. [/ QUOTE ] Meh. You know exactly how I meant that. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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