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Old 04-12-2007, 11:57 AM
benwood benwood is offline
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Default Re: D! Fence!

You have a hand that is good a reasonable amount of time, & when you're behind it has 11 outs to the nuts + some other out that may or may not be good.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: D! Fence!

I never said i was any good. i am in fact terrible. just showing a glimpse of what terrible minds think. it is silly to think of value in future hands by semi-bluffing a super-strong draw.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:57 PM
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You have a hand that is good a reasonable amount of time, & when you're behind it has 11 outs to the nuts + some other out that may or may not be good.

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If he check raises that A, your hand is not currently good. I'm talking about the idea of 3 betting a cr as being horrible. When he puts that cr in, we've got to consider that we need to improve. 11 outs on the turn means we're probably improving 1 time in 4. Certainly we're not jamming a heads up 25% draw....
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:50 PM
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if he can c/r on that turn card and we 3-ball it will get capped huge majority...
if he does c/r turn we can narrow range to AA/JJ/TT/AJ/44 and maybe even an unlikely JT, AT, or KQ (far less likely live)
i bet/call and call river (typically fold but his hatred makes this a call)
with check assumption for turn, i raise/call river (typically raise/fold river but again, hatred means payoff)
- i hate payoff with AQ here, with 15-1 odds to call river if we bet/call turn and dont improve i think this is still a spew against standard player... but against agrivated player i toss in one more in case he is out of line or maybe we chop somehow
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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i'm not sure if it is standard in this situation but i never have a good experience capping AQs pf, though playing with an opponent that you have history with could lean it to a cap.

unless the borg 20 got really aggro pf, i might just call pf..
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