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Old 03-24-2007, 09:18 PM
uhf23 uhf23 is offline
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Default How to extract the most value?

Is my turn raise too big? How would ya'll have played it?

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Button ($40.05)
SB ($160.20)
BB ($107.15)
UTG ($99.50)
Hero ($100)
CO ($126.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($20) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $14.

Turn: ($60) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $125
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:42 PM
TheDivineRod TheDivineRod is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

I think turn raise if fine, SB is most likely on a draw or has a weak ace.
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Old 03-24-2007, 11:00 PM
DocMartin DocMartin is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

Looks like a lock hand. I would really think about my bet sizes and figure out how to gradually take this guys money.

The size of the flop raise looks good, he is saying he has an Ace and wants to play it.

I think I raise less on the turn. He is saying he still likes his hand but not that much, plus you leave yourself a trivial amount for a river push. You are only leaving yourself $25 which is saying he has to play for your stack if he calls. I like 35-40 which is a much easier call and almost guarantees getting a call on the river.
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Old 03-24-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

I'm the opposite of Doc here. I raise a bit more on the flop, so that I can push the turn. Because Hearts makes up a nice portion of his range. He's nice enough to donk into you on the turn, and I would just push there.
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Old 03-25-2007, 02:01 AM
MightySan MightySan is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

5 players saw the flop! Vey likely SB had a fl-draw. So raise more on the flop.
Your thoughts?
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Old 03-25-2007, 02:14 AM
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id push turn, he has to expect that you will raise his donk bet
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Old 03-25-2007, 04:49 AM
MightySan MightySan is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

To DocMartin.
If a lot of players see the flop, any draw on the board should bother you.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)


SB ($162.60)
BB ($50)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($19.75)</font>
MP ($22.55)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($65.15)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $7.

Turn: ($24) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG calls $10.25 (All-In).

River: ($45.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $45.25

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 3h 2h (flush, jack high).
Hero has Jc Js (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins $44.50. Hero wins $0.75. </font>
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:18 AM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

in both hands, bet more on the flop.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:22 AM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Default Re: How to extract the most value?

lol thisisplayedgoodaments. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

like aj says, plenty of times he has hearts or a draw here that we want to raise.
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