AQ - re-reraised

[Crispy Bacon]

I had no plan, I suck. I think I play scared, building up a decent stack, then the thought of losing it in one hand scares me off a big pot. Really gotta try and get outta weak-tightdom which I think I've sunk into.
My only thought when he re-popped me is that he knows I must be pot committed with my raise and yet he still insta-shoved - all I could see was AA,KK, AK

[umistboy]

Yes he will have seen that you were committed (and must call) but in his eyes is is well ahead of your range even without AA,KK,AK.

As played its a must call when 1/2 your stack is in.

I agree with the smaller raise though and then a call/push on flop.

Two questions:

1) if needed, do we push ANY flop? (assuming he calls a 3600 pf raise)

2) how do people feel about calling then leading out on flop? (this is my least prefferred move but what are the thoughts of others?)

[Agent Zero]

Is there any merit to just flat-calling his raise PF, or is that just weaksauce play?

[blankoblanco]

Flatcalling this out of position when we're going to miss the majority of flops is a really horrible idea, especially since his range is practically infinite.

edit: although it's still better than what OP did, i guess

[Mercyful]

[ QUOTE ]
Villain appears to be a TAG, no specific reads.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t25)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t12419
UTG+1: t17693
MP1: t7690
MP2: t15819
MP3: t5998
CO: t5000
Button: t10975
SB: t8175
Hero: t10987

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t1200</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t5600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t10950</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t5350 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t11625

I think I'd be very lucky to see JJ, 10 10 and far more likely to see AA,KK, AK where I'm more than a 3:1 underdog. Folding ok?

[/ QUOTE ]

OH MY GOD MAN, this is TERRIBLE. How can you raise that much and then fold!?!?

Why don't just call and see the flop? AQ isn't that great anyways. Damn dude, see some flops, play some poker. Jesus.

[Mercyful]

Better options:

- Raise all-in.
- Raise to 3400 or something and then lead flop.
- Call and see flop.
- Fold.

[Wildman420]

Just smooth call buddy, why re-raise even 3600 and put your self in a difficult situation where you might have to possibly call off the rest of your stack with a hand as marginal as AQ off-suit??? Calling gives you a shot at out drawing KK or QQ or out racing 88-JJ with out risking a large portion of your stack. By calling you 1) will not lose any more chips if you miss the flop and 2) keep the pot smaller in case you do run into a monster hand

[holdemft]

No, I hate this play. Any r/r here is just bad,bad,bad.

All-in&gt;&gt;&gt;Calling&gt;&gt;&gt;Folding&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Raising

[Mr.Poker]

This is pretty gross as people have pointed out.

Because of stack sizes and the fact you dont have a made hand makes reraising here pretty bad as well as you are committed on any flop (go and go) but that just gives villian a cheap way to catch up on the flop (if he's behind anyway). Because you are OOP and against a button raiser, and 2600 in pot, I like reraise all in here.

All in &gt; Call &gt; Go and Go &gt; fold &gt; reraise fold

Reraise folding against button's range is awful..although i think you realise this now.

[Cornell Fiji]

[ QUOTE ]
No, I hate this play. Any r/r here is just bad,bad,bad.

All-in&gt;&gt;&gt;Calling&gt;&gt;&gt;Folding&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;Raising

[/ QUOTE ]

I completely disagree with you.

I think that a go and go is clearly the best play in this spot.

You are against a button raise and you would not mind taking it down preflop. Raising to 3800 and pushing any flop is by far the best option.

Going all in preflop would allow the villain to play pretty perfectly. He would always fold AT/AJ, he would call with AK and he would call with a lot of pocket pairs that he would see a flop with (if you raised) and then fold to your shove.

Go&amp;Go &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Call&gt;Shove&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;fold