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01-07-2007, 09:30 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
Maybe I'm just running bad, but if I shove, I either expect villain to fold or to call me with a bigger pair or flush draw. 40/20 players still have a brain and I don't see why he'd call an all in with less than TPTK. At the same time, I don't think many of them think deeply enough to put us on a draw. They'll just see the large bet and get scared away from all the hands we're beating. So by shoving, we win the least against the hands we are beating but still lose the most to the ones were behind. It would only be optimal if villain has a flush draw.
As played, I call the raise, lead the turn for 2/3, and end up all in anyway, except at least that way villain's range still includes some of the weaker hands we're beating, like QJ or KJ. 
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#2
01-07-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
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Maybe I'm just running bad, but if I shove, I either expect villain to fold or to call me with a bigger pair or flush draw. 40/20 players still have a brain and I don't see why he'd call an all in with less than TPTK. At the same time, I don't think many of them think deeply enough to put us on a draw. They'll just see the large bet and get scared away from all the hands we're beating. So by shoving, we win the least against the hands we are beating but still lose the most to the ones were behind. It would only be optimal if villain has a flush draw. As played, I call the raise, lead the turn for 2/3, and end up all in anyway, except at least that way villain's range still includes some of the weaker hands we're beating, like QJ or KJ. [/ QUOTE ] Because he bluffs a lot and may put us on one. Who plays AJ this way?
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#4
01-07-2007, 10:25 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
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I have no doubt that shoving will make us money. I just feel that calling and letting him make greater mistakes with worse hands just makes a little bit more money. [/ QUOTE ] On a rainbow board, I'd suggest that line. Against a slightly less aggressive opponent (but still overly aggressive) I like that line and it's the obvious way to play it. I'd suggest however to 'think above the rim'. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#5
01-07-2007, 11:46 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
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[ QUOTE ] I have no doubt that shoving will make us money. I just feel that calling and letting him make greater mistakes with worse hands just makes a little bit more money. [/ QUOTE ] On a rainbow board, I'd suggest that line. Against a slightly less aggressive opponent (but still overly aggressive) I like that line and it's the obvious way to play it. I'd suggest however to 'think above the rim'. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Thats true, if a heart does come on the turn, it makes the hand very awkward. I think I enjoy trapping people for more money too often, we feel stupid if we call, a heart comes, and we lose our stack to a flush.
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#6
01-07-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
I know some folks may dissagree, but I think your play is fine. I think you should reraise to 210. His minraise represent a hand he can still get away from. If you raise again, he either folds or goes All-In. If he goes All-in or calls, you have to surrender your hand unless you have a strong read or some history. 2 moves: raise or fold.
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#7
01-07-2007, 10:09 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
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I know some folks may dissagree, but I think your play is fine. I think you should reraise to 210. His minraise represent a hand he can still get away from. If you raise again, he either folds or goes All-In. If he goes All-in or calls, you have to surrender your hand unless you have a strong read or some history. 2 moves: raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] lol
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#8
01-07-2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I know some folks may dissagree, but I think your play is fine. I think you should reraise to 210. His minraise represent a hand he can still get away from. If you raise again, he either folds or goes All-In. If he goes All-in or calls, you have to surrender your hand unless you have a strong read or some history. 2 moves: raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] lol [/ QUOTE ] You guys really have to get out of the habit of making fun of people and remember where you came from. Have some respect at least.
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#9
01-07-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I know some folks may dissagree, but I think your play is fine. I think you should reraise to 210. His minraise represent a hand he can still get away from. If you raise again, he either folds or goes All-In. If he goes All-in or calls, you have to surrender your hand unless you have a strong read or some history. 2 moves: raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] lol [/ QUOTE ] You guys really have to get out of the habit of making fun of people and remember where you came from. Have some respect at least. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but that guy is a troll.
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#10
01-07-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: 400NL - AJo vs. a LAG
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I know some folks may dissagree, but I think your play is fine. I think you should reraise to 210. His minraise represent a hand he can still get away from. If you raise again, he either folds or goes All-In. If he goes All-in or calls, you have to surrender your hand unless you have a strong read or some history. 2 moves: raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] lol [/ QUOTE ] You guys really have to get out of the habit of making fun of people and remember where you came from. Have some respect at least. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but that guy is a troll. [/ QUOTE ] Because someone doesn't know how to play he's a troll?
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