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Old 11-01-2006, 12:47 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: KJs, turn

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Imo if you are gonna play this hand
Push pf
Push flopp
Push turn
basically PUUUUUSSSSSHHHH

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Pushing preflop is bad. I like the limp a lot better.

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This doesn't make sense. Why you like limping? I'm assuming the big blind is 400 though.

IMO: folding > pushing > calling/raising a small amount
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:28 PM
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there was a type-0. The blinds were 100/200 not 200/400. With 200/400 blinds this is more likely a fold for me PF. ty
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:55 PM
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I understand why everyone thinks this is an easy push on the turn. But I don't think it's as clear-cut and obvious as everyone makes it out to be.

IMO if he pushes, he only gets called by a hand that beats him (any 8, 22). On the flip side, he gets heavy underdog hands to fold (A2, any deuce?, 33-99, smaller flush draw). I don't think there are too many hands that his opponent can have that he should be worried about since all of those underdog hands are drawing very thin (2-3 outers). As long as you know you're willing to put all your money in the pot with that hand, why not check and give the guy a chance to bluff or think his hand is good (checking behind but paying you off on the river)? If he has an 8, you're losing either way, you pushing and getting called or you checking and calling (unless you hit a diamond or J of course).

I understand pushing is the better option here. But just throwing it out there that c/c or c/r might not be a bad play either, especially against aggressive opponents.
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:58 PM
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100/200, 200/400. Doesn't matter much since you're most likely gonna get your entire stack (or a large portion of it) in on the turn.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:48 PM
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I like the check raise line as wickwah stated. It's a good chance to trap him if he is behind and as wickwah said "make him think his hand is good" and possibly pay off on river.
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